Indy, I've been away and haven't had a chance to comment on your "National Service". You said; "Anyone 17 or older & unemployed". Well, I take it you're a tad over 17 and in between engagements at the moment, you're a prime candidate.

Paul1405,
The lack of judgement you & Mr Opinion & a couple of others put on display here for the World to read, is exactly the kind only a National Service can remedy !
It's time to give you trolls a wide berth again for awhile !

Indy keep your shirt on,

All is not lost, the cavalry have arrived in the form of 160 mango pickers from Vanuatu, two weeks hols in Darwin then its into the NT mangos, onto North Queensland for, you guessed it, more mango picking.

Indy I do believe you hail from up North Queensland way, how are you up a mango tree? The mangos are calling! "pick me, pick me"

Once I get my Seniors National Service up and running the old folks wont know what hit em'. No more hanging around gods waiting room, knocking back schooners, playing bingo, no more pigging out on the complementary cheese and crackers at the bar. No more of those $10 pensioner specials, bangers and mash, being an old folky favourite at the bistro for lunch, no more ideal afternoons playing the pockies! No siree, its up and at em' the mangos are waiting!

I do believe we have enough old folk welfare fellas on the Forum to form our first work detail. Indy you are promoted to the rank of corporal and are in command. Hassy, ttbn, mhaze, runner, etc etc report for duty at 0 400 hours , that's army lingo for 4am, you'll love the early start out there in the great outdoors.

Mr O, as the only one showing enough intelligence to run this operation. Are you free to take overall command with the rank of Major General and HQ'ed in the penthouse of the Ritz, with full hotel service of course, on a token salary of $800,000 pa.

Paul, you are not far out;
Read recently about grey nomads stuck in one state filling in time and
getting a bit of pocket money fruit picking.
The farmers realised there was some bored nomads in the caravan park.
Complete with accommodation and food. Or just commute each day.

My understanding of Individuals National Service idea is that it has two parts- rights and responsibilities.

Rights- Young people have the right to a job and to participate in the success of Australia to have the opportunity to grow within the structure of Australian society in line with their contributions so that both Australia and the young person benefit from their loyal service.

Responsibilities- Young people have the responsibility to try to contribute.

The responsibility of the institutions is to create opportunities for young Australian's and others to integrate into Australian society utilizing their brilliance for the benefit of all and to be rewarded accordingly- this cooperation and cohesion making Australia strong.

The right of the institutions is to expect loyalty from their people for their protection.

From time to time changes there may need to be made to the institutions after careful consideration but this shouldn't become a license for changefulness, progressivism and instability.

Society in the past was in theory a system of rights and responsibilities between parties- modern society is profligate.

Those societies that protect themselves- in a broad sense- from themselves and others- will prosper.

In the past- the village looked after it's own- over time faulty experimental government systems have left the vulnerable impoverished- mass culture and over competitiveness has definitely influenced this- although it has also sometimes helped for example with mass production reducing costs for the so called middle class- but there are still the dispossessed- those for which society has become toxic and meaningless.

The communist agents are happy to promote slavery for ideas in our schools but not in the forces because for the time being they don't control them. Control of the army perhaps is in the final stages of communist subversion. Ideas are more dangerous than guns- Joseph Stalin.

The communists want disillusioned young- fodder for cannons

Paul1405,

Thanks for the job offer but I was hoping to get the role of imaginary Admiral of Phil's imaginary aircraft carrier where I could watch Phil having dogfights with the Red Baron from the bridge.

"Roger Phil Roger ...... good show old boy ....... all clear to land."