Has any one else noticed that every time an African country goes from white rule to black rule, law & order collapses.

You only have to look at the hate on the faces of the leaders of the BLM protests/riots in the US to see that racism is more prevalent in that community than any other.

Yes Chris Lewis, you ear very lucky in your families choice. In the 80s I ran a division of a company with an ex South African general manager. He was a quiet thoughtful, & very clever man. He told me he really hated abandoning the country of his birth, but as a family man he could not justify staying in the catastrophe he saw developing, the danger for his kids was too great.

It is a great pity that these countries drive out the very people they need to advance conditions for all.

"Analysts and international human rights organisations
maintain that farm attacks are part of a broader
crime problem in South Africa and do not have a racial
motivation.

In any case, it is horrific and nobody is condoning it"
Foxy.

Foxy, do you really believe that rubbish? What else would you expect from such a source?

I guess you have to try to convince yourself it is true, or suffer a huge blow to your ideology. The first requirement for enlightenment is to accept facts. That is the only way to the truth.

South Africa‘s parliament has passed a motion that leads to the seizure of land from white farmers without paying them compensation.

Passed by an overwhelming majority of 241 votes to 83 votes against, the proposal to amend Section 25 of the constitution would allow expropriation of land without any financial recompense.

It was put forward by the radical left Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) party, whose leader Julius Malema told the country's parliament: “We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.”

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-12/white-south-african-farmers-say-theyr

Every night, local farmers go on patrol around Bela Bela in South Africa's Limpopo province. Armed and wearing bulletproof vests, they cover more than 160 square kilometres.

Chris Esterhuizen says they have little faith in the police, so they look after themselves.

"You wait four or five hours for the police to come out to assist you. So, we decided to do a neighbourhood watch in our area," he said.

By day, Mr Esterhuizen runs a local taxidermy business. He is always armed, even in the workshop.

He's determined to stay in South Africa, but the fear of being attacked is taking a big emotional toll.

"I think there are guys who want to leave everything. But I don't think it's so easy. You put your whole life — sorry, this is taking me very seriously. You can't leave this place. Really," he said.

According to police figures, 71 people were murdered on South African farms in the year to March 2017.

But farming group Afriforum says that figure does not reflect the full extent of the violence faced by its members.

However armed blacks take it upon themselves to seize land by threatening farmers, as they believe the Government has sanctioned them recovering land from farms.

This news about what is happening in South Africa is absolutely disgraceful.

Send in the Chinese. That'll fix 'em!

There, problem solved. I don't know what all the fuss was about.

Even better, we can let all of black Africans come to Australia and be part of the growing Australian African community of western Melbourne.

It's the multicultural thing to do. I'm sure Foxy and FOULmouth would be on board with that.

Dear Hassie,

I'm not trying to convince myself or anyone else
of anything.
I am simply providing information on what's
available online regarding the complex
and horrific situation that exists in South Africa.

Agriculture and safety experts are the ones who claim
that farm attacks are in the vast majority mostly
driven by economic gain. White farmers appear to be
more heavily affected but this may be because they have
more wealth in the areas where they live.

The long term effects of farm attacks and murder also
appear to be lasting with farms attacked taking up to
five years to recover and of course levels of anxiety
increasing in farming communities where they occur.

It's a dreadful situation and the brutality is attributed
to the isolated settings in which they occur.

All very frightening.

Foxy reads the drivel instead of the fact. "Agriculture and safety experts are the ones who claim that farm attacks are in the vast majority mostly driven by economic gain."

It is the belief in the minds of Black gangs that farmland was stolen from them by white settlers, so they are now sanctioned to threaten and murder the occupiers, as this will improve their economic situation.

The fact is the farmers originally brought the land and developed it and employed locals to work with them on the farms. To paint the picture as merely economic, does not identify the situation facing the production of the farms. Farmers are not just sitting on land producing no income and not adding to the economy of South Africa. They Are!

SAPS statistics indicate that there were 80 attacks between January and March 2020.
A further 48 were reported between April and June of this year.
A total of 128 farm attacks have been reported in the first six months of 2020. This time last year, the number was just 13 – meaning that rural crimes have surged ten-fold.