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White farmers lives don't matter

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There you go runner. News just in from the purveyor of truth and justice, Chief Justice of the foxes lair; it’s all a conspiracy theory.

There were actually only fifty nine white farmers brutally butchered to death and strung up on poles to bleed out, while their wives and children were tortured and raped by black gangs. Stop exaggerating!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 9:11:03 PM
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another good national example to confirm why my parents made the right decision to come to Australia.

Sure glad they did not go to South Africa.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 6:35:56 AM
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as you claim,
Paul1405,
You've given yourself away with this one !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 7:39:37 AM
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The Murder Count is about 48 - 65 p/a of farmers and workers since 1998. Not the 59 total Diver Dan purports.

Many black farmers and their workers are also victims of violent attacks. The term has no formal legal definition, but such attacks have been the subject of discussion by media and public figures in South Africa and abroad. There is insufficient data to reliably estimate a murder rate for South African farmers. South African government data indicated between 54 and 74 murders on farms annually in the period 2015–2019, and 48-64 during 2010 - 2014; out of an annual murder count of 20,000 total murders in South Africa; these figures are broadly consistent with figures collected by the Transvaal Agricultural Union (TAU), a farmers' union. Due to the problems associated with counting the number of South African farmers and farm murders, it is unclear whether farmers are at greater risk of being murdered than other South Africans.

Data released by the South African government in 2018 showed that the number of farm attacks had increased between 2012 and 2018, but that the number of murders on farms had decreased year by year during the period. During the same year farming organisation AgriSA reported on police statistics which suggested that the murder rate on farms had declined to the lowest level in 20 years, to a third of the level recorded in 1998.

Unsubstantiated claims that such attacks on farmers disproportionately target whites are a key element of the white genocide conspiracy theory and have become a common talking point among white nationalists worldwide. There are no reliable figures that suggest that white farmers are being targeted in particular or that they are at a disproportionate risk of being killed. The Government of South Africa …

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Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 8:31:22 AM
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Josephus

Are you for real?

Your entire text relied on SA Government figures. Have a think about that one, while I chuckle away to myself.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 9:48:41 AM
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Farm violence has long plagued South Africa.
They are violent crimes including murder, rape,
assault, robbery. However the full picture needs
to be presented because attacks target not only
white farmers but farm workers who are usually
black and there are many black farmers and their
workers who are also victims of violent attacks.

There are no reliable figures that suggest white
farmers are being targeted in particular or that
they are at a disproportionate risk of being killed.

Analysts and international human rights organisations
maintain that farm attacks are part of a broader
crime problem in South Africa and do not have a racial
motivation.

In any case, it is horrific and nobody is condoning it.

Dear Josephus,

Thank you for the information.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 11:08:19 AM
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