Paul, Ho Hum, don't bore us.

Sadly this debate told us everything about America:
a broken, divided, angry society.

Bazz, do you know anything about the 'Prod Boys' or are you claiming ignorance like the lying Trump. Seems they think very highly of your favorited dirt bag. The FBI has classified the far-right Proud Boys as an extremist white hate group with ties to white nationalism and other racists groups. Hitler had his Brown Shirts, Trump has his Proud Boys!

http://www.voanews.com/usa/notorious-hate-group-proud-boys-celebrates-trumps-debate-comments

I had heard something about the Proud Boys, but a lot more
about antifar. Who are the ones who you see burning down
buildings and cars etc and stealing clothes and TV sets etc ?
If it is beyond the police then the army should be brought in and
treat it as an armed insurrection. I did see some of the rioters with arms.

Are the proud Boys a reaction to the Antifar ? If they are it would
not be a surprising reaction, but something that should be left to police.
It does seem to have gone quiet lately.

Bazz, the Proud Boys are clearly an organised gang with a leadership in the form of a Mr Enrique Tarrio, a chain of command, a uniform of sorts, I believe red and yellow are their colours, and travel and gather in groups. They have a structure and rules, eg white males only, no women members etc. So they are clearly and identifiable group within American society.

Antifar are a collection of anti-fascists reactionary groups formed to counter the likes of the far right Proud Boys, but dating as far back as the 1920' in Europe. Antifar lack the centralised organisation of the Proud Boys, operating more or less as local autonomous groups. They are radicals who support violent direct action.

Both of these groups need to be condemned in the strongest of terms by the moderate political leadership. Proud Boys and others of the radical far right form part of Trumps supporter base, people he can ill afford to alienate, as they basically support the system and do vote (for Trump). The radical right may be small in actual number, but their actions of violence and disruption does influence the waverers and fence sitters when it comes to voting. Biden can condemn both groups, one do vote, and influence votes, but don't support him, the other are out and out lunatics who don't vote anyway, and have no positive influence on voting. ITs all very tricky for both sides of politics.

The pics of looters and burners, these are most likely non-political thugs and criminals taking advantage of a very volatile situation.

BTW, Trump claimed not to know who the Proud Boys were, it was another of his out and out lies. He certainly does know, and sees them as a positive for his re-election if he plays them right.

Because the American public are becoming polarised and the anger of the Left against Trump is unhinged, if Trump wins this Election there will be Civil war. They will not accept another four years of trying to impeach Trump on any charges they can't find. Antifa and the Communist Left who are trying to use race politics to change the American Constitution's first and second amendments. To stop freedom of speech and disarm civilian society.

The policy of Joe Biden as introduced by Obama and repealed by Trump is to make single home families on large blocks of land with more than one car pay more tax to build high rise units in the city.

http://thefederalist.com/2020/07/31/democrats-policies-are-unfit-for-the-presidency/