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Preservation of species

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Dear Indy,

It took the medical profession from the 1960s to
the present era to get the public and the governments
we elect , to act on the toxic, life-taking efforts of
tobacco. Eventually sanity prevailed, although it took
40 years.

It is clearly time for economists to commence their
campaign for politicians to take action. Economists are
currently sitting on their collective hands - not good
enough.

Prof. Tor Hundloe in his book "From Buddha to Bono:
Seeking sustainability", tells us that economists are the
the most powerful profession today. The guardians of the
three major disciplines (which combined to form the new
sustainability science - ecology, economics, and ethics)
have a special duty thrust upon them.

They have to ensure that those participating in these
fields apply the accumulated knowledge in their
respective fields.

Appealing to our professionals and philosophers is one
thing but it is you and I as global citizens who need
to put aside our narrow self-interests and work together
as friends if there is to be a world for those humans and
other animals who follow us.

Our world leaders will start taking notice of the vast army
of experts who are willing and able to guide us through
the coming difficult years. A better world is possible.
It will take effort. It will be difficult. But as Prof
Hundloe tells us - it will be worth it.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 September 2020 4:52:01 PM
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we would have a lot more Koalas left if the idiot Green dogma did not lock up all the forests.
Posted by runner, Friday, 11 September 2020 5:24:03 PM
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It's Thanks to the Green conservationists that
NSW government has dropped a plan that could
have opened up new areas of the state's
protected old-growth forests to logging.

Green conservationists have called this decision
a win for the state's environment and threatened
wild-life after years of habitat loss and the
devastating 2019-20 bushfires.

If it wasn't for the Green conservationists a
global tragedy would have unfolded in NSW.
More than 3 million hectares have burned.
After losing so much the need
to be doing all that could be done to protect what was
left was essential.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 September 2020 6:19:30 PM
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Why do so many people believe that Nature needs to be managed ? Nature will always find a way out, it's up to us stupid humans to fit in without destroying it until we're on the chopping block !
Cutting trees & creating lakes is more often than not enhancing nature rather than destruction of the environment. Things only go haywire when we destroy what the environment needs to replenish itself.
When our damage exceeds what can't recuperate naturally within a season or two is when the show goes wobbly.
Fires are a perfectly normal & natural mechanism to balance Nature. It's only since silly humans thought that preventing fires is a good thing. Yeah, we've all seen how that worked out in the past.
If we do see a need to mine a wooded area then at least create another wooded area for wildlife to migrate to. Most mining is probably not even necessary but the want for money by a few dictates such unnecessary exploitation of limited resources to produce over-supply for an already saturated market.
Would it not make better economic & environmental sense to leave the ore in the ground in Australia instead of stock-piling it overseas ?
Sell it only when it's actually needed & brings a better price ?
Posted by individual, Friday, 11 September 2020 6:59:58 PM
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In pre-industrialized societies people traditionally
treated nature with respect, considering themselves a
part of, rather than set apart from, the natural
world. This attitude was typical, for example, among
the Indian tribes of North America in pre-
Colonial times and of the Indigenous people of our nation.

In industrialized societies our attitude is different.
We consider ourselves the lords of creation and see
nature primarily as a resource for exploitation . As our
"needs" increase, our capacity for exploitation expands.

We do not see our ravaging of the environment as "ravaging"
at all. It is "progress" or "development". We are so used
to exploiting natural resources and dumping our waste
products into the environment that we frequently forget
that resources are limited and exhaustible and that
pollution can disrupt the ecological balance on which our
survival depends.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 September 2020 7:28:40 PM
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Individual said; i can't help thinking that damage to wild life is
done by radio waves, radar etc.

It is an old wives tale.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 11 September 2020 11:21:52 PM
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