Ah, well Paul, I do agree the temperature has been rising for
a long time. Around three hundred years actually since the Maunder Minimum.
Some think it has already peaked and is getting ready to decline.
Certainly the current sunspot count cycle is very low and if the next
few sunspot cycles are also very low then we will be in for a cold few
hundred years.
I do not know how much the Milanvitch cycles modify our temperature.
I am sure someone can calculate that.

david f,

It was Jared Diamond in his book 'Collapse' who called the Chinese migrants to Australia and the US an invasive species.

The reason he described them as this is they seek a First World lifestyle which impacts adversely on the environment in the US and Australia. (In simple terms that is. If you care for a detailed explanation you can find it in his book.)

I agree with him. 1.6 billion Chinese all wanting to raise themselves to First World status and practices will definitely do a lot of damage to a global environment that has been almost been wiped out from human intervention since the introduction of our species 200,000 years BP.

How typically green is our Paul,"A gem from one of the climate deniers; The original report to which I was referring was a report by a forestry scientific organisation whose name I do not remember." Seems like a bit of a Donaldism to me".

No consideration of the evidence or argument, just a blind reference to some unnamed "forestry scientific organisation', probably Friends of the Earth, or some other such, [if it exists], greenie ratbag mob with a descriptive name. Totally proves my point for me.

Dear Mr Opinion,

I agree with you that the first world life style is causing great damage to the environment. Perhaps we and other first world countries could change our life style to do less damage to the environment. The Chinese might copy that rather than emulating our current life style. The Chinese have certainly showed themselves aware of environment problems. Part of that awareness was shown in their one child policy. Environmental problems are exacerbated by uncontrolled population growth. To the best of my knowledge no other country has addressed that population to the extent the Chinese have.

I remember the Nazis comparing Jews to rats and lice as they worked themselves up to exterminating them. I am very sensitive to that. Rhetoric comparing Chinese to invasive species even if it comes from Jared Diamond reminds me of the Nazi rhetoric. Can you see why "What would you do about Australia's invasive species: foxes, rabbits, cane toads, Chinese." sounds to me like Nazi rhetoric?

Mr Opinion,
How many commodities produced in China have you acquired & use on a daily basis ?
I know that I'd prefer to buy locally made products but as just about all my fellow citizens of this Nation hold their Dollars in higher regard than each other, I too am forced to buy & use made in China.
But, I draw a line at blaming them for aspiring to what people who don't need to perform to afford to buy their goods.
I wonder how they'd react were they to realise the mentality of the people they envy ?

david f,

The Chinese only believe in two things: money and all things Chinese.

China's biggest export is environmental degradation and the increasing diaspora is spreading that commodity to every corner of the globe.

If I had my way I would cancel all of their visas and send them packing to China. And I think old Soot Morrison and the boys are thinking along the same lines as I am.

Have you noticed how Soot's attitude to China changed after he came back from his visit to the US last year. I have a strange feeling that the Americans showed him what the Chinese are up to and I think it was enough to scare the sh!t out of him.