I'm sure if my ancestry would have been German -
ttbn would have found a way to bring up the Holocaust.
That's the type of person he is.

History is full of atrocities committed by nations.
Including Australia. The ADF is under investigation
for their behaviour in Afghanistan. Trials are pending.

Lithuania had been the center of Jewish learning and
religious study for centuries. Vilnius its capital was
called the "Jerusalem of Lithuania".

Lithuania was the first country in the world to
prosecute Nazi conspirators. It happened in 1934 - 35, more
than ten years before the Nuremberg Trials.

http://www.slic.org.au/Lithuania/NaziTrial.htm

World War II produced tens of millions of victims. Some
were combatants, some civilian casualties of the war. Others
were victims of genocide planned by the warring powers.
The Nazis and the Bolsheviks committed unheard of
cruelties. There were also of course numerous courageous
men and women who refused to participate in the subjugation
and destruction of the targeted groups and individuals.

There were Jews who interceded with their lives to save
persecuted Christians, there were Christians who died in
their attempts fo save Jews.

They died, some along with their entire families, or accepted
their fates in concentration camps rather than betray their
fellow men.

Some are known, but most perished and are known only to God.
These heroes embody human nobility in its highest form and
stand as beacons in the other wise bleak history of WWII.

Among those who, out of greed or cowardice, chose to
collaborate with the evil minions of the NKVD and the
Gestapo were Christians and Jews, Germans and Russians,
members of all nations caught in the merciless war. No
faith, no nationality, no race was free of cowards or
collaborators. No group was spared from killers and
traitors in its midst.

Some of these villains perished, some were captured and punished,
for the most part shortly after the conclusion of the war. Other
escaped retribution, dying, as did Stalin and Hitler.
The evil architects themselves - without having been
brought to justice.

cont'd ...

ttbn,

Ok, I had the right page and date, just the wrong time.
(Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 July 2020 10:20:33 AM)
So, you're really quite touchy, aren't you.
Self confident, full of, 'knowledge' - and not at all prejudiced or possibly mistaken about anything. Good for you.
As for what I was 'referring to' - you know full well.

However, I must say I did not at all appreciate your guttural attempted 'rebuke' on Page 18 (Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 July 2020 4:42:41 PM) in response to my well-meaning suggestion(s) that perhaps you could benefit from applying some manners to your contributions.

Not to worry, your latest post on this thread, on Page 20 - (Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 July 2020 7:13:48 PM) - was right up there, equally a piece of self-serving detritus, so you should be proud; you are at least consistent.

Go well. I shall not trouble you again, or take any note of you at all.

(Who knows who else might be observing our pointless 'banter'.)

My grandmother came from a little town in Lithuania.

https://jewishaction.com/books/reviews/world-900-year-chronicle-shtetl-eishyshok/#:~:text=There%20Once%20Was%20a%20World%20has%20been%2019,well-written%20and%20documented%2C%20with%20copious%20notes%20and%20photographs. leads one to a book. There once was a World, about its history.

“The Lithuanian Jews, in particular, held fast to the qualities that made them unique. No matter where the latest national boundaries lay or what flag flew above them, they remained within the fixed, permanent borders of their cultural identity. To be a Lithuanian Jew – a Litvak – was to have values and cultural ideals that set you apart not just from your non-Jewish neighbors but from the Polish Jews, the Chassidim and the Jews who lived in the Pale of Settlement. The Jews of Eishyshok were the very embodiment of those with Lithuanian characteristics – sharpness of intellect, pungency of wit, a deep dedication to scholarship, intense religiosity, stubborn self-sufficiency, and an unceasing industriousness – especially during the shtetl’s last four centuries. They were to remain so even under the influence of Polish Jewry, which had an even greater impact from the sixteenth century on.”

The above sounds like my grandmother. She was magnificent. When she died a history of the French and Indian War was by her bedside. She wanted to know more about the history of her environs. She combined her religiosity with skepticism. She observed the religious strictures. However she said, “When the Messiah comes” to mean ‘never’. Other people in the town reserved their parlors for weddings and funerals. We lived in her’s. She would line up the kitchen chairs, and they become the dining car on a train. “Would you like to have something to eat before we get to Albany?” One time she and my grandfather were arguing. It got to the stage where crockery was hurled. She pointed to him and laughed. He was startled but joined in the laughter. He had a ready wit and was quick with a quip or a pun. He lived seven years after she died, but I never heard him laugh again.

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We need drones to meet all of our everyday needs.
Mr Opinion,
It's drones such as yourself that the Leftists indoctrinate to further their interests !

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He was from Riga, Latvia and was walking through Eishyshok when he saw her. They were both supposed to marry other people, but that never happened. He got to the United States and sent for her. They were living on the lower East Side when she got pregnant. They decided that was no place to raise children. They wound up in a little village, Brandon, NY, in the Adirondacks. The other five families were all French Canadians. That’s where my mother was born, and she spoke French before she learned English.

In the Holocaust museum in Washington are three stories of photographs. When the Russians reoccupied Eishyshok during WW2 they found photography shops with photo plates showing Jews picnicking, working and generally living. Those photos grace the walls of the museum. My grandmother had left her hometown about fifty years before the Nazis wiped out the Jews in the town

World War II produced tens of millions of victims.
Foxy,
Do you think there would have been a WW2 resulting in so many deaths if the Allies had not decided to oppose Germany & made the whole show spiral out of control instead of making a better World ?