Hassy, previously on the Forum you favoured a "Get em' before they get us" philosophy, did you not put forward the notion that 200,000,000 innocent men, women and children in Pakistan should be NUKED as a preemptive strike by our side? Who is MAD? Hassy you will never be in danger of being called a pacifist, that's for sure.

The belligerent warmongers are hell bent on destroying the United Nations as a mechanism for world peace. The announced spending of $270 billion on aggressive militarism by Morrison in the form of long range missiles does not bode well for Australia as a vehicle for peace in our region. You do not make friends with the neighbour by pointing a gun in his face. China should note that as well.

David I see the merit in what you say, for far to long the belligerent warmongers have held sway in Australia's decision making, dictated the attitude of the country towards militarism, allowed us to be led by the nose by a foreign power with disastrous consequences. AND they call me disloyal!

Peace, men and women of OLO.

To some on here, the native doves of Australia, keep on dreaming.

Seriously, what peace efforts do you think will win against the CCP given all of the facts and evidence that show the CCP's real intentions.

It is great we live in a society that gives people choice in how they think, but the wishful approach to the CCP you are calling for will not happen.

I am as sure as that as I was in 2008=09 when I stated the US backlash was coming.

There has to be a Cold War, and we have to win.

But as Mr O would say to the doves of OLO, kum by yah

There's a better chance of everyone of us winning the lottery than achieving peace.
There'll never be peace until all are pulling their weight !
One just has to take a look at Hong Kong. Would Chine really cause as much mayhem as the protesters ?

Well past her use by date though she is, Bronwyn Bishop made a true statement the other night on Sky News: "The Greens hate Australia".

A puss sucker who though she was above everyone else, $20,000 joy flights in a helicopter at taxpayer expense. Sorry if I missed that one, I refuse to pay for Murdoch trash, the so called 'Sky Channel' with its collection of bogon commentators. ttbn its the old men who never have to fight wars, that push for war, are you in that category.

BTW just to add, the NAZI's loved Germany, so what. If you really loved your country you wouldn't be trumpeting military aggression towards our neighbours in the way you do. That just makes innocent people targets.

Yuyutsu perhaps buying time would have some point if we were actually buying arms. Unfortunately we aren't buying weapons but toys.

Diesel subs, designed for WW11, & a failure even then are merely toys for the generals & admirals to play WW11 war games with, & utterly useless as weapons today.

A few tanks & a few aircraft which may be effective, but in such small numbers that we wouldn't last a single day in a full shooting war are nothing but a joke, & a waste of good men.

Unless we are fully nuclear armed we are merely a side show, & might as well be armed with boomerangs & nulla nullas for all the good we would do.