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Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 6:53:56 PM
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David,
firstly thank you for the "heads up". I am disappointed at your siding with Foxy and Co., and also that you feel that my language is, according to my detractors, un-acceptable here on this medium. I'm sorry if I see the world for what it is, and try to explain it, I can see that there is a school of thought out there that does not wish to believe that people are not what they seem. There are so many contradictions in life that it is becoming impossible to ignore or deny them. I simply will not accept what is being touted by the politicians as they are beholding to the highest bidders. You have confirmed what I have come to realise about people, well certain people, and the net result of that realisation is that too many wrongs are being fostered and promoted for the wrong reasons, by the wrong people, believing in the wrong doctrine or ideologies, and are too convinced in them to consider they might be wrong, and therefore attack anyone with opposing or differing views. If my language is not acceptable to you or OLO I accept your right to inform me. But if my language offends, then I believe, as I have advised many times before, that those offended should ignore my postings, because there are many more who find no fault in my language. It is sad that people have succumbed to this vile language of PC, because it does not allow for the truth to be told. Those pushing the angle that what I speak is hate speech are in no position to comment or judge, because they themselves have engaged in real and actual hate speech as compared to possibly strong and empowering speech. Every word I have used I can explain and justify, as they were chosen specifically for their suitability for the message being conveyed. OLO need not worry, as I have learned a lot by joining the forums I have, and that I need a wider audience, which will happen once I have set up my VLOG. Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 7:06:36 PM
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Interesting times.
Education and knowledge (though essential) cannot explain everything, particularly of the human mind; not even sociology or psychology. One suffers a brain infarction (or tumor) and suddenly discovers a previously absent ability in art or music. Some suddenly can see and possibly communicate with spiritual persona - Virgin Mary, Holy Ghost, Krishna? Sane? Some with Autism can demonstrate extraordinary abilities, yet others find difficulty with speech and simple tasks. What can make one hate someone, want to shake them and urge very loudly (or perhaps gently, softly) "Wake up; get with the program; be a mensch!" What can make Heroes of their people (who have liberated them from real or perceived oppression) turn to raiding the national coffers for personal aggrandizement and wealth, and then, to avert revolt sparked by consequent deprivation, call upon 'the people' to attack a minority (or 'different') group within their midst to confiscate their belongings, their land, their lives? (Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Myanmar, Bosnia..) What can cause a person (or group) to hate another group, with a vengeance impelling them towards murder and carnage? Even a person of previously meek and amenable disposition? (Islamic Jihad) And, how can such people be brought to disavow such hatred and bring them 'into the light'? The capacity to hate, to violence, may be ingrained in the human psyche, lurking in the Id perhaps, just waiting for a suitable 'catalyst' to cause it to erupt to the surface? Are such capacities kept 'in check' by 'conscience', conscience born of parental, social, societal example and teaching - or religious teaching of morality, ethics, empathy, compassion, tolerance - and 'to do unto others'? (That last little quote purportedly from Confucius.) What can account for the great stoicism demonstrated in India - even, or particularly, by those who have nothing, the 'untouchables'? A truly amazing people. Surely there's a better way than war to bring the whole human population 'into the light' - or must it take another one, two, three million years of 'evolution'? Thanks for the lovely poem(s), Foxy. Posted by Saltpetre, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 7:15:07 PM
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Foxy,
thought it only fair to let you know that you are an enigma. So much so that I have garnered so much about you and your persona that I will make you the centre piece of my VLOG reference medium. With so much and many anti sentiments from so many antagonists, I feel the weight of prejudice and collectivism, from within OLO will prevail and sooner or later will conspire to effect my expulsion. If so, so be it. I have learned that OLO is not a true public forum, but one for a particular kind of people. The kind with set or well entrenched ideologies and reluctant to consider any views and suggestions that differ from their own. To quote a famous freedom fighter; I'LL BE BACK! Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 7:40:54 PM
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Dear Foxy, David f., ALTRAV and whoever cares to join in (it’s open house for all !), . Whilst waiting for ALTRAV’s exclusion, demission, or unlikely redemption, I suggest we take David’s advise : “Let’s live and laugh” … and listen to some of my favourite songs : http://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=gD0vfUcVxVM http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=39&v=Kw29XOd2TEA&feature=emb_logo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxLA1NX9gxY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JByePXtnHU . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 7:47:15 PM
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Dear ALTRAV,
I can only feel a great sadness regarding you. Dear Foxy, It sounds like good poetry, but I question the sentiments in the following stanza: The pens in great tragedienne lines extol the meritorious lie, the grand excuse justification for this carnivore called man who can't evolve in his estate clothed and fed, his universities and halls of learning yet avail him nought the jungle beats enact the same stage plays one kind, one king, one death the same in duty and in worship all the same differing nought for death wears the same cloak regardless of technology or sport Man is an omnivore, not a carnivore. Our universities and halls of learning inspire questions and help him to realise he is not a carnivore who is ruled by blood lust but a human who is emerging from tribalism. Posted by david f, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 7:50:06 PM
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When Morrison returns to Australia he can hold the letter over his head to display it and tell people there will be peace in our time.