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Initiative for peace

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Mr O,

Can't wait. :-)

Take care.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 20 July 2020 8:21:31 PM
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Foxy,

For something sensible, do you mean ? Can we wait that long ?

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 20 July 2020 8:54:50 PM
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Hmmm ....... The poet and the pie-maker. Do I stand a chance?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 20 July 2020 9:33:21 PM
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David,

As I do not engage in hate speech, could you please enlighten me as to which phrases, not words, are "HATE SPEECH".
Google, explains it thus;
"abusive or threatening speech or writing, that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion or sexual orientation".
None of the explanation refers to me and my language, except for the one about "a particular group", and the group I have always referred to is the Illuminati, (or even the Bilderberg group) and with good reason.
Too many articles have been written about them, none of them good, all of them negatives and or in condemnation.
Over the years even less is known about the secret goings on behind closed doors.
So nothing new there, I have always told of my hatred for such groups or people who seek to dominate others, unjustly, not that there is a justifiable way for one group or person to dominate anyone.
I have always denigrated this group who apparently consisted of mainly Jewish elite.
The only thing that has changed, as I understand, is they have become more anonymous and elusive and not as exposed publicly even more every year.
So David, even though your approval of free speech is most welcome, I reject your accusation of my engaging in hate speech.
If I hate someone or something I will make it known so there will be no mis-understandings or ambiguities, BUT, I will not stand idly by and be accused of something I clearly did not promote.
It is so disappointing that you would side with those who have an unrealistic view of the world and people in general.
I have always tried to correct any untruths, whether on OLO or in life in general.
This is just another such event.
I appreciate your candor and you clarifying your position on this topic.
Thank you.
Posted by ALTRAV, Monday, 20 July 2020 11:25:39 PM
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Dear ALTRAV,

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This forum is described by its founders as “an area for deliberative democracy”. Anyone can come here and participate in the “debate of ideas”. That is the sole raison d’ętre of the forum.

There is utmost respect for freedom of speech in the “debate of ideas”, whatever the subject.

Offensive ad hominem remarks are not part of the debate of ideas.

There are few rules (cf., Forum Rules and General prohibitions) and Australian Common Law applies – in particular, laws relating to "hate speech" and "racial vilification".

So much for the Forum.

As for your participation on it, ALTRAV, your dissimulation tactics of posting unsourced antisemitic propaganda in the form of personal comments – which, when challenged, you elude by an acrobatic pirouette worthy of a prima ballerina assoluta performing at the Sydney Opera House for the umpteenth time, a feint well-conceived and executed :

« I didn't write this stuff, others did, so please go and attack the authors not the messenger »

You also, very cunningly, launch attacks repeatedly, not against “the Jews” – Oh no, never ! You proclaim loud and clear :

« I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH JEWS ! »

That is to say : not the “ordinary Jews”, just the “elite Jews in the guise of the Illuminati” (as you wrote in your post on page 18 of this thread) – i.e., the intelligentsia, the political, industrial, economic, agricultural, financial, military, religious, etc., elite – in short, only all those Jews who actually count in the country and who you claim belong to a secret society called the Illuminati who are complotting to control the world – not the “ordinary Jews”. They are simply insignificant followers with no power and of no interest whatsoever.

Dividing the Jewish people into these two categories and limiting your attacks on the former, allows you to deny any suggestion of antisemitism.

Maybe, ALTRAV, but your participation has other negative aspects which you need to address before the close of this thread if you wish to continue on this forum.

The clock is ticking.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 8:38:25 AM
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Banjo,

clearly we differ in our priorities.
If you wish to view my comments a certain way, you are more than welcome.
I, having written those comments, know exactly what I was saying and the message within.
The fact that you disagree with my version of events, only exposes your prejudices and bias.
You reject my submission that what I say is merely repetition, and presumptuously replace it with YOUR version of MY message.
Now if you are a just and reasonable person you would not pervert anothers words as you have attempted to do.
I know EXACTLY what I mean, it is obvious you do not.
If I say, I do not mean the Jewish people in general, that's what I mean.
YOU have decided to accuse me of something I clearly am not guilty of, but I am curious as to your reasons for this indiscretion.
If you are Jewish, then you are seeing shadows where there are none, if not then you are simply being personal, in that you have decided, for reasons known only to yourself, that you dislike me.
If this dislike is due to YOUR interpretation of my mention of certain people who wish to harm and dominate others, then you are the one who should be challenged not me.
How can you have the temerity, audacity and arrogance even to threaten me when I tell you I have repeated or reported what others have written.
What brilliant excerpts have you come up with lately that were completely of your creation?
I've got news for you, EVERYONE here on OLO is recanting stories and articles written by others, including yourself.
If you are so righteous and omnipotent that you can confirm or reject anything written or anyone's OPINION, then I cede to a better man.
Until then I will take your comments as just what they are, comments and personal opinions.
In closing, I strongly suggest not making veiled threats, especially on this medium, as it will be you who suffers the wrath of the adjudicators, as I have done nothing more than communicate.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 9:50:01 AM
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