cont'd ...

Dear David,

I'd like to share the following:

On the first day of the new school year, all the teachers in
one private school received the following from their principal:

Dear Teacher,

I am a survivor of a concentration camp. My eyes saw what no
man should witness:

- Gas chambers built by "learned" engineers.
- Children poisoned by "educated" physicians.
- Infants killed by "trained" nurses.
- Women and babies shot and burned by "high school" and
"college" graduates.

So, I am suspicious of education.

My request is: HELP your students to become human. Your
efforts must never produce learned monsters, skilled
psychopaths or educated feral animals.

Reading, writing, arithmetic are important only if they serve
to make our children more humane.

( - From Haim Ginott's "Teacher and Child").

Dedicated to the work and memory of Dr Haim Ginott, ( 1922-1973)
a psychologist, a parent, educator, and a sorely missed man.

Foxy,

keep it up, your still twisting the facts to suit your agenda.
You will be reported for in-sighting hatred and bigotry if you persist in mis-quoting and mis-representing people, if the adjudicators are not already watching and waiting to do so.
If you are an honest person with a truly christian ethos and demeanor you would not set about to bag people simply because you decided you don't like them, because they upset you and your sensitivities by alerting you to your flaws and faults.
You lie and intentionally twist my reference to the holocaust.
If you were to be honest and quote me truthfully, you would have seen clearly I was referring to the ILLUMINATI, and not Jews in general.
So either you set about to intentionally malign and deceive or, well there is no OR, because the comment was clear and un-ambiguous.
So if you want to lose even more face and cred than you already have lost, by all means,
KEEP IT UP!

LOUDmouth,

Looks like 'Chinese' means one thing to you and another to me.

When I use the word 'Chinese' I am defining the nation not individual people. You don't seem to be able or don't want to accept this usage. Probably a result of your years spent as Maoist pie-making Melburnian.

Yes they can specify the study area on the testamur. In fact just looking up at the wall behind my monitor right now I can see 'Master of Arts in Sociology' on the first one I spot. So yes they do it.

The reason you haven't seen a testator in decades is because you do not have one yourself.

LOUDmouth,

PS On last line that is 'testamur' not 'testator'. Wishful action on the part of The Forum auto-spell system.

Dear Foxy,

The stock-in-trade of religions, of ideologies which are religions with a shorter half-life and conspiracy theories is the belief that they have a truth that non-believers don’t have. My first impulse when I heard ALTRAV’s comments on the Jewish danger was to ignore them as I don’t think he presents a danger. Since then he has invited me to join in his delusion and condemn the illuminati. Since I didn’t I have apparently become their supporter in his mind. I think it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to argue a person out of a delusion.

You mentioned:

- Gas chambers built by "learned" engineers.
- Children poisoned by "educated" physicians.
- Infants killed by "trained" nurses.
- Women and babies shot and burned by "high school" and
"college" graduates.

I am sure some of the above were sure that they are doing what is right. In Australia there is not the support of the Libs, Labor, Nationals or Greens for such actions although I can’t be sure of all the other parties. We have a lot of people with various opinions voicing them on this thread. Nobody has supported ALTRAV’s bigotry. I don’t believe ALTRAV is a danger.

For all I know ALTRAV in most respects is a decent man even though he believes that a band of evil Jews called Illuminati are plotting mischief. Solzhenitsyn, an Orthodox Christian, wrote:

“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”

Solzhenitsyn had his own delusions, but it’s still a great quote.

david,

I don't say things without reason or foundation.
What I have said is merely what I have read or seen over time, some of it goes back decades.
I have no interest in making things up, I have enough on my plate, but the evidence was damning and of concern, it is/was not up to me dispel or dismiss any of it until or unless I came across anything contradictory.
Over the years I have not, and not for the want of searching.
So, if you wish to dismiss or reject anything I say/have said, you will have to charge the authors of such information and I have always made it perfectly clear that I can only speak of what I know.
Apparently you have no knowledge of the Illuminati, based on your attempt to defend them, if so I understand, but if you are defending them because of some futile attempt at being virtuous, then you cannot comment.
Still if you feel better with a lie and misrepresentations about me and my beliefs, then that's fine with me, as long as you know the TRUTH!