Mr. Opinion,

What a waste of time this naive thread has been. People don't want the truth - it scares them too much.

Clive Hamilton opens his latest book with: "The comforting belief that democratic beliefs have history on their side and will eventually prevail everywhere has always been tinged with wishful thinking" …… "Universal human rights, democratic practice and the rule of law have powerful enemies and China under the Chinese Communist Party is the most formidable."

All we need now is for morons in America to oust Donald Trump for a 77 year old dementia suffer. And, here, we are already stuck with a non-performer for another two years.

"The wide-ranging campaign of subverting institutions in Western countries and WINNING OVER THEIR ELITES has advanced much further than Party leaders might have hoped".

Too many Westerners speak of China as if the CCP doesn't exist. They fail to understand the Party's comprehensive role. They are politically illiterate on China.

Lying, cheating, threats, blackmail and murder. The CCP gangsters make the Triads look like amateurs. There is plenty of proof of the dangers to come, but casting pearls before the swine on OLO is a waste of time.

Thanks, Chris :)

Cheers,

Joe

ttbn, I am confused. Do you have faith the west can win the battle, and that the West is getting tougher on the CCP, or do you share Mr O's defeatism?

I do disagree that Trump is the best option for taking on the CCP though, as I will argue on OLO should the piece get published in time.

Chris,

Mr. Opinion and I are not confused about the intentions of the CCP because we have taken the trouble to study the phenomenon. Sadly, most people have not done this.

I don't entirely agree with Mr. O on every aspect of the Communist threat to the West; I think we might get away with another Cold War. But, whereas we won the last one with Russia, we were not embroiled economically with the Soviets as we are with the Chinese Communists.

At last count, there were 18 EU countries signed up to the all invasive CCP Belt and Road Initiative, Italy being the first. Yes. 'Civilised' white people just like us; not merely your Islander types.

The UK is riddled with friends of the CCP, including members of the House of Lords. The damage is well and truly done.

If we are lucky enough to keep China's war against us a cold one, things are still going to be very grim.

ttbn,

Yes I agree with your summary.

Western societies and leaders must wage the Cold War now.

IMO, the current CCP attitude will snowball the response. Just recently two US major warships cruised the disputed south china sea.

The acid test will be the West's defence of Taiwan, should that happen.

If the West does not act, we are all gone in terms of superpower struggles.

However, I believe the West, and its influence, can and will prevail.

Chris & ttbn,

Xi Jinxing has over the last two years addressed the PLA on two occasions at public ceremonies watched by the nation-state and told them to prepare for war.

What more do you need to know? Isn't the writing on the wall?

Why do you think Xi was made a president for life? Doesn't that mean that China wants a war leader who will be there for the duration without fear of being voted out?

And when Xi brings home the spoils of war to his people I assume he will be elevated to Emperor.

To me it's pretty obvious the road China has decided to go down. Again, isn't the writing on the wall?