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Women in the Workplace.

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Foxy, NO!
YOU need to wake up to the real world, all that you said was YOUR take on the world today, and not so at all.
You don't get to pontificate and predicate to me or anyone else either on this forum or else-wear for that matter.
Your attempt at pushing your agenda is as usual moot.
You don't want to hear it but there are still some men out there who have not had their stones ripped off them and whether you like it or not, what gets your goat is that men ARE still the dominant sex and the women subordinates.
The fact that you have this particular arrangement with your husband only means you have an arrangement specific to you two.
Your marital arrangements have no bearing and are not typical of a "normal" marriage.
I never understood what was wrong with being a woman, and yes I refer to 1950.
If your example is typical of today's marriages, then I suggest you do what you do best and research the amount of divorces.
Not even touching on the un-married couples, and those who had to get married because they got pregnant, and all because of a provocative and slutty lifestyle.
The evidence is out there for all to see, if you want to see it.
You speak as if 1950's was a bad era, well your wrong.
Do not profess to know or speak of something you know NOTHING about.
Where were you in the 50's?
I was there, I lived it, I remember it as if it was yesterday.
I lived through it and it was far better than today.
I have learned one thing, when debating with you, and that is, you are fixated on something and no end of discussion convinces you to consider ALL sides of a debate.
All that you have said and have yet to say is only your opinions and beliefs, they do not represent the truth about what you might be debating or discussing, or what is the "real" world, only the world in YOUR head.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 1:54:15 AM
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This has nothing to do with what altrav said. His words were very pointed.

With this covid blunder going on women should be prepared to stand back and let jobs fill with men first, unless you are a lone worker.
If women push the boundaries men of today will stand back and stay at home. The male of today are not as astute as they used to be years ago. Marriage has gone out the window, casual shacking up is the new norm as they don't like the idea of being tied to one place.
How will the country ever make soldiers out of this lot.

The idea of femininity pushing stupid ideas of babies not having a sex relegated until they are 4 years of age is right out there.

Abortion is something else i am not a human baby expert but i am a pig expert. When piglets are born it takes 7 days for the nervous system to be connected, that is why we castrate within that time without anesthetic. Is there a difference between babies and piglets.
Posted by Riely, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 8:10:27 AM
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Don't worry Foxy, Il Duce is only firing up in his usual style.

ALTRAV said; "that's me off air" more like off the planet!

You bunch of Rip Van Winkle's need to realise the world has moved on from your idyllic 1950, Australia has moved on, yes its the 20th year of the 21st century, unbelievable as it is. Hassy with the silver spoon (full of home made ice cream) in his mouth. I know you can't have no more Aunt Mary's to do the washing, no coolie to scrub the floors, no old Chinaman to bring you vegies. Nah! no more black and yellow fellas to wait on you hand and foot! It really is a shame.

Hi Foxy, this is what the retro brigade see for women. Not sure if its Old Mr and Mrs Hassy or the old ALTIE folks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB5TOsS5EyI

Hassy you ask; Paul, why are you currying all this favor with your lady? Have you been up to no good, & are trying to get back into the good books? Nah no need Hassy, I'm always in the good books, cause I understand women better than most males. I can see things from their perspective, as well as my own.

"Is there a difference between babies and piglets." yes there is Riely, but its all hogwash!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 9:57:21 AM
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Paul, sorry but you failed once more.
My reference to "that's me off air" was regarding that particular thread, as I thought I was close to using up my posting allowance, so calm down go take your meds, I will abstain when I feel the need to, in the meantime your not going to get away with "man slaughter" or "female over adoration" while I'm around to bring you back into line.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 10:22:24 AM
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Hi Paul,

All any one of us can do is speak from our own
experiences in life. Which as I have pointed out for me
have been very positive with few problems thanks to the
support of my husband, family, friends, and colleagues,
including bosses at work.

I've gone on to acknowledge the fact that not every
woman's experiences has been as positive as mine and that
there are problems in our society that still need to be
addressed.

What will the final shape of Australian gender roles be?
Sexual equality does not necessarily mean gender similarity
or a "unisex" society. It does not necessarily mean that
women will gradually adopt the characteristics of men or
that the two existing genders will converge on some
happy medium.

The most probable pattern is what's currently happening
now - in which many alternative lifestyles and roles are
acceptable for both men and women. My husband and I are a
team. We work together for the good of our family. We
always have. We support each other.

In any case as I've stated earlier - what seems to matter
more to most couples today is - not a matter of whose
gender is in control but working together as a team for
the good of the family.

Today men are permitted a more gentle and expressive
personality than would have been considered appropriate a
few decades ago.

The 1950s "John Wayne" image of manhood has less and less
appeal to both sexes today. Like the female role, the
masculine role is now more ambiguous, more flexible, more
subject to interpretation by the individual.

Resolving this kind of ambiguity is part
of the challenge of social and cultural change.
The " ME BOSS - YOU OBEY!"
syndrome does not bode well today with most people - except
perhaps in some traditional cultures and religions.

Today a person's individual human qualities, rather than his
or her biological sex is the primary measure of that person's
worth and achievement.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 11:36:39 AM
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Foxy, all that we can say to your vague attempts at validation is;
We are all mindful of the fact that your comments are totally and completely of your creation and beliefs.
The small amount of neuters who even closely resemble your fantasy of the "modern" family man, are absolutely NOT the norm or the future.
If you got your head out of your books and computer for a change and took it out the door into the "real" world, you would find that things may not be as in the 50's, but they are certainly not as you describe today and the few that are, are just that, few.
When women decide that their life was much better in the 50's than today, they will return to it, with vigour.
They will come to learn that being a woman has certain advantages and that attempting to force themselves into jobs and lifestyles clearly not suited or designed for women is definitely not the way to go or worthwhile.
Women have destroyed what was a natural family environment by choosing to be selfish and self centered.
They have disrupted what was once a well oiled team, not this wussy rubbish you describe.
They have destroyed the natural order, such as, having given birth it is a matter of nature, that the mother nurtures and rears the child and slowly the father steps in to get involved more as the child then grows up on the way to being an adult.
There is no value to the purpose of life, (the family) if we have this dysfunctional mess of today's example of what you call a "family".
Anyway, from your own comments you confess that you had the assistance of friends and family to enable you and your lifestyle to succeed.
So by your own admission, your idea of marriage is a failure without external support, of ALL the factors involved to make it work.
People like you and Paul prattle on about how good things are today and maligning the "good ole days", ever stop to notice the word, GOOD?
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 12:29:30 PM
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