Paul, Foxy, and you wonder why you get picked on.
You both want us to perceive you as progressive and the voice of the future, well I've got news for you both, we have been, so called, "progressing", since we were created, and I can say confidently, that the record will show that we have in fact been "regressing".
You complain as if 2020 is a better time than 1950.
Well the only response to that is bullsh!t.
All the things you have gone on about, were all much better in 1950 than today.
You complain that women were oppressed and men were overbearing.
Where the hell do you people get off, I don't know where you grew up but that's not the life and environment I remember, in fact as I got older, this place got more rancid and began smelling of so many wrongs, that today it literally stinks.
You go on and on boringly about the poor down trodden women, you are the problem not what you bleat on about.
As I recall women were if not happy, at least content, satisfied, settled and generally knew where they stood and what to expect and what was expected of them.
Today, who the hell knows WTF is going on.
The women, want this and that and the other thing and more, but in the end they are still not satisfied or happy or content or settled and definitely don't know where they stand or what to expect and what is expected of them.
Your portrayal of a 1950 woman or man for that matter, is at the very least disingenuous and an affront to our forebears of that generation of which we all experienced and I can tell you that what you are going on about is a pathetic attempt at elevating women to a position they are incapable of navigating.

Ooops'I still have trouble entering posts.
I thought I had not posted, because somehow I could not see it come up, but for some reason it was there as it is quite obvious now.
Sorry about the second posting, that's me off air till the my posting time clicks back.

I go along with that ALTRAV. Women had it made in the late 40s & 50s, at least those who's men came home from WW11 did. It has been all down hill since then.

Picture this Townsville 1949. Dad managed a shoe store, & my mother was a house wife. Not exactly high society. She played Bridge Wednesday afternoon, & tennis Friday afternoon, & they both played on Saturday. Tuesday the washer woman came & did the washing, & some ironing. Many of the neighbors had house boys or Marys.

We had one of those new luxury gadgets called a fridge, great mum could make ice cream, something not yet often available in the shops. Before that the ice man delivered ice to the ice box every day bar Sunday.

A soft drink truck called weekly as did the Chinese fruiterer, the baker & milkmen called daily. Mum walked to town weekly to place our order which were delivered Tuesday. I walked a mile to school, as did all kids.

It was too soon after the low wages for service men for most to afford a car, so dad cycled to work, usually with the bank manager next door. In the wet season they rode in just a pair of shorts, with their work clothes wrapped in ex army waterproof ground sheets. No plastic bags yet.

In those days we had pay packets. Many times I saw dad, the bank manager next door, & other kids fathers hand their unopened pay packets to the little lady, who usually handled the family budget. She would hand the man his pocket money, about 10 bob back then, & me my 9 pence pocket money.

Yep late 40s, early 50s most women had it about as good as it could get. It's been all down hill since then, & with womens libbers it is only going to go further down.

Paul, why are you currying all this favor with your lady? Have you been up to no good, & are trying to get back into the good books?

Paul, Hassy has a point.
I am rather curious and somewhat confused by your continual blind adoration of women.
I am truly curious, and I'm not being facetious, you display a very intense and passionate concern for the welfare or well being of women.
If there is one thing I can assure you of is that women, like the blacks and other groups, are more than well represented and looked after extremely well.
It's the men that need backing now, I would have thought you might have kept a little of that female concern for the men.
But upon reflection, I cannot recall you ever standing up for men.
In fact, I find it sad that there is little to no attention given to the men's plight.
I believe it's time that the men started to regain their rightful place on that throne of authority once more, thereby restoring the balance of power in the all the right places.

ALTRAV,

1) I have always been supported and encouraged in
whatever I wanted to do by my husband, family,
colleagues, and my bosses at work. I have never
felt oppressed and my husband is certainly not
overbearing. I've actually never known any
overbearing men.

2) Labels like "progressive" don't interest me.
Labels in general belong on jars not people.

3) I'm not in the habit of complaining.
I'm more into solving.

4) I didn't say women were oppressed and men
were overbearing.
You did.

5) Your knowledge of today's women is sadly lacking.

6) You appear to have no understanding,
of what Paul and I were discussing.

7) You appear to be clueless how normal men and women
in today's world inter-act and live.

8) You appear not to understand some of the problems
that some women face in their work environments.

9) The world has moved on from the 1950s.

ALTRAV,

In today's world - men don't insist on their place
of "authority" as you put it.

They are working together as a team sharing
responsibilities.

Today a person's individual human qualities rather
than his or her biological sex are the primary
measure of a person's worth and achievement.

Men being the dominant sex and women being subordinate
to them, today is not the "natural"state of affairs
that it once was, passing it down from generation to
generation of their culture.

Things today have changed. And whether you recognize that
or not - nobody really cares.

But if you want to be taken seriously you need to stop
sounding like a dinosaur - and educate yourself to
the realities of how real people live.