JBowyer, you can see the kind of attitudes one has to tolerate on this forum.
It is beyond the pale as to how blind some people are to things.
Some refuse to see the truth, others discard the truth in favour of a more pleasant scenario as they either don't have the stones or the intellect, or even the maturity to handle the hard decisions.
You will find an abundance of virtue shamers here.
They all have an opinion, and most of them are too gutless to say it like it is, for fear of being criticised by anyone.
You will be considered a racist if you make ANY derogatory comments about anyone, especially if you single them out for something which obviously leads to them.
What is the saying?
"All Muslims are NOT terrorists, but ALL terrorists are Muslims".
Now obviously, taken literally that is not true, BUT, the saying is a light-hearted way of attempting to appease the PC pundits, and make a point in criticising terrorists.
We even have one on here who has once again just told us what we already know and have been told ad infinitum, as if we are all stupid and need to be reminded by her, over and over again.
I have warned her to stop printing direct quotes and comments of things we are already aware of, but to no avail.
She is patronising at the very least, and these are some of the sad and sorry souls you will have to contend with here on OLO.
So whatever you do, I suggest, don't let them get away with ANYTHING!

JBowyer,

I'm not as pessimistic about things as you seem
to be. I don't believe in the doom and gloom
theories that are being bandied about by some.
I think our state and federal governments are
doing well. The steps that they are taking are
gradual small steps but that's better than just
opening the flood gates to the detriment of us
all.

In any case we shall have to see what the eventual
outcomes will be.

I'm beginning to learn on this forum - it's futile
to argue with some people. Best to just let them be
wrong. (smile).

Foxy, so finally we get a glimpse of your true persona.
So you and your running mates are right, and the rest of us are wrong?
Since when did we make OLO about you?
You show your hand by refuting the doom and gloom around you.
If things are so rosy and wonderful, why then IS there so much doom and gloom around you?
You can lie to yourself, but do not even thing about lying to the rest of us.
We actually notice what is going on around us and we do not under any circumstance lie or mis-lead just to make ourselves feel all warm and fuzzy inside, like yourself, apparently.
BTW, the only person arguing is you, we are commenting!
So in future, if you feel so inclined to argue, please direct your aggression at yourself, then you can see how futile it is trying to have an intelligent conversation with you.

'but perhaps Trumpf is right, that all you have to do is shine a strong light up your arse and drink disinfectant. Give it a try, Runner :)'

Joe

and perhaps Governor Cuomo inviting people to Chinese festivals and sending covid infected people into age care homes was a good idea. But don't let your obvious hatred and (TDS) and twisting of the truth stop your narrative Joe.

Sad really how the people on here are having a go at each other when no
one has certain knowledge on what is the best way to treat this virus.
The various governments have tried different protocols all to no avail.
Even Australia's technique of drawbridge raising has had good results,
so far. It could be it will leap out and bite us later.
Just be glad we are still alive and arfuing the toss.

Bazz, that is exactly the point.
I question the knee-jerk reaction to give immediate instructions to close borders, isolate and generally make it appear that what we are doing is going to stop the onslaught of this virus.
Well I'm not so sure about that.
It might have slowed it down considerably, but as we are seeing in the East, it is not stopping, and it will not stop, as long as we have carriers of the virus amongst us.
It has been a typically PC, political disaster, and those of you who think the govt made the right decision to act as quickly as it did, GROW UP!
I am telling you all right now, and I know some off you will not want to hear it.
The closing down of the state/country was the biggest betrayal any govt could have done to the people.
If you think that the death of a few compared to the devastation of the many is acceptable, then you are all lacking in common sense and seriously lacking in objectivity.
We are seeing the continuation of this pandemic, only with lock-down it will be in slow motion.
We are going to see many more deaths and casualties but not all from Covid 19.
Those of you with short visions, think that the only deaths and casualties are from the virus, well your way off.
Your narrow field of perception and imagination fails to see the millions who are out of work, with little or no income.
Yes millions, because we don't get the full or true picture, because little delicate Nancy's like yourselves can't handle the truth.
So just stop and think, what are all these people going to do once they run out of savings and resources and sold everything they could to stay afloat, and the last thing is trying to save their most treasured possession, the house, then where do they live?
Those of you who believe the govt did the right thing, will rue the day, in years to come when we will still be burying covid 19 deaths.