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F opxy,

Of course, France (and probably every other country) is closing down some of its nuclear reactors by 2035, they're getting pretty old.

And of course, France and other countries will proportionately reduce their reliance on nuclear energy, as they broaden their options to renewables, tidal, perhaps some essential fossil-fuel-based energy, and perhaps other technologies that haven't been developed yet.

Given that most countries will have grown their economies substantially in the next fifteen years (except perhaps the US and Brasil which will still be struggling with the aftermaths of the virus), it would not surprise anybody if their total energy needs are much greater than they are now. So a declining reliance on nuclear energy generation does not mean a decline in the amount of nuclear energy generated, or even imply that no new nuclear power stations won't be built.

Let's wait and see :). As long as it's safe, I'm happy with nuclear energy generation.

I'd better repeat that: As long as it's safe, I'm happy with nuclear energy generation.

Key phrase: As long as it's safe ......

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:54:29 AM
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Joe,

Generating electricity using nuclear reactors carries
high risk but offers large rewards. No one can deny
that. In operation, a very small amount of nuclear
fuel will consistently generate a very large amount of
electricity and generate very little polluting material.

However, each country be it France or others have to
look at alternatives or a mix of technologies as well
because as we see in the delay in France the financial
cost of building and decommissioning a nuclear
power station are very large and the waste produced will
remain radioactive - hazardous to humans and the
environment for thousands of years.

Safety is important - and so is cost.

Each country has to decide what suits it and what its
people will approve of. The jury is still out.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 12:21:12 PM
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No doubt China is still laughing at us as those involved in the gw religion continue to dumb down generations. To think we can manipulate the weather is laughable and anyone with half a brain could see the numerous false predictions by the 'experts' over the last 50 years. We continue to destroy and make our economy uncompetitive as the renewable sharks and globalist rip off the general public.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 1:33:53 PM
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Runner, quite right.
I would also like to correct SR once more, as he is still living in the past on this GW thing.
If we are to accept that the planet is warming, it is not because of any human misconduct, but merely what the planet has been doing since it was formed.
That said, it cycles between warming and cooling every several hundred years or so.
Any resultant activity such as CO2 is because of this warming.
Now I know none of us will be around when the globe becomes cold again, but you can bet it will, and there is nothing we can, or should, do about it.
Those of you who are still sucked in by this fallacy will hopefully be remembered as naive and gullible and in fact blamed for the legacy of failures (in ALL areas) that the renewables curse will leave us and future generations with.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 4:53:20 PM
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Hi Bazz, Joe, and Steele,

Do you know about the changing energy sector of
Western Australia?

Apparently the Western Australian Energy Sector is
undergoing unprecedented change. The Hon. Bill Johnston
MLA, says that energy technologies are rapidly improving
with renewables becoming more cost competitive with
traditional sources of generation.

He tells us that in Western Australia their energy sector
has been changing for some time. He says whether we realise
it or not, the way they generate electricity, the way they
consume electricity and the cost of producing electricity
is transforming.

He says that they are blessed with world-class solar and
wind resources, abundant gas supply, a wealth of battery
metals and a highly skilled workforce.

They apparently have a genuine opportunity to establish a
cleaner, brighter and more resilient energy supply for
decades to come.

We're told that today more than one in four households in
WA have solar photovoltaic (PV) systems on their roofs,
generating a huge amount of clean energy and helping
households and businesses manage their energy costs.

There's more at:

http://www.wa.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-08/Energy-Transformation-Strategy.pdf
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 7:02:01 PM
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Boy, will it never end.
I live in WA and sure we have a lot of solar panels, but so what, remember one and all this last bit of clap trap propaganda comes from a politician.
I can assure everyone that the TRUTH is quite different.
As usual we take a few FACTS and then imply the rest based on the veracity of those facts.
Sure we are the leading state for mining, actually keeping Australia afloat.
But that aside, just because we have the resources, building blacks, to build a house, does not mean we will, it just means, we COULD.
The govt has been bleating this kind of tripe for decades, and until/unless someone puts their money where their mouth is, it ain't gonna happen!
Yes, we are the lucky state, as far as minerals and resources go, too bad we don't have the govt or the so called "the honorable my arse", minsters to complement all these possibilities.
Before any of you go off half cocked at trying to make the same point, that was attempted just now, think!
This type of hype is old news to us but apparently not to the gullible and naive.
I would certainly back ANY venture that proved viable and a win for this state and therefore this country, and even more so the Australian people.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 7:47:45 PM
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