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Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 2:15:43 PM
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Foxy,
"Here's another "opinion piece " for you to knock back: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/oct/19/end-myths-britains-imperial-past Fair enough description, it is an opinion piece and one that highlights the negatives without once mentioning a positive. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 3:44:09 PM
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Toni,
"As for the Empire vowing to wipe natural grace and beauty from the Earth... lighten up dude, it's a joke" So is the author of that ridiculous statement; if she intended it as a joke then let her tell us so. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 3:50:16 PM
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Dear Toni,
Thanks for posting what should to normal people be obvious. However you're wasting your time with this person. I stopped explaining myself to him when I realized that he only understands things from his level of perception. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 4:04:51 PM
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Foxy,
Here's the full quote again, is it all a joke as I originally assumed or only partly a joke? "Meanwhile white hunters shot the Aboriginal hunting dogs and the kangaroos that were a staple food for the locals - kangaroos were a threat to the white invaders because they competed with cattle for grass and water, and were also symbolic of natural grace and beauty, two things that the British Empire had vowed to wipe off the face of the earth." Pray tell us which is the funny, make-believe part? Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 4:22:27 PM
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Is Mise,
Why do some people assume that whites have always been all-powerful, that they have come in vast numbers to efficiently conquer helpless people ? In much of the outback, whites have been in the majority for barely a century, for much less in some parts. Muzzle-loading muskets took up to a minute or more to clean out and reload, while spears could be thrown every few seconds. Single-shot carbines and rifles weren't introduced until at least the 1840s, and repeater rifles (I've seen an assertion that they were used in the Pinjarra Battle in WA in 1832) weren't invented (the Winchester rifle) in the US until the 1870s. When pastoralists seized/were leased land, they needed labour. So they attracted young men to their stations with rations, and by building small weirs or dams across rivers, to encourage people to come and settle nearby. That continued really, until the 1960s. The truth is what counts, not stance or passion or narrative. Joe Posted by loudmouth2, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 4:42:53 PM
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So yes, of course the British were ecological vandals. See the example of the thylacine for an excellent case study. Of course at that point in time, so was everybody else. But since it was the British who settled here, they're going to be the people that are mentioned in discussions about Australia.
However I think that it in the interests of balance and not upsetting the overly-sensitive, that in future any discussions where the unfortunate and grim realities of British imperialism are raised should be accompanied by the statement 'but the French did it too'. I feel this should keep everybody happy except the French, and when were that miserable bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys ever happy about anything?