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National Reconciliation Week 2020.

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Foxy,

Thank you, I'm glad that you are aware that the truth is what matters, and that the truth depends on evidence, and that evidence is sometimes uncomfortable to deal with.

For example, the 'stolen generation': I'm sure that you would be aware that all people taken into care, Black or white or whatever, every such child would have a government file, now in their state's respective archives. And surely very many people who were taken into care would have taken their file to a major law firm such as Blackburn's, or Slater & Gordon.

So logically, you and I would expect that those firms would have taken entire groups of cases, class actions, to court. And that any genuine cases of children being taken away illegally or improperly would have easily come to light. As well as Bruce Trevorrow's ......

My wife's sort-of-second-cousin actually.

Evidence is what counts. Find it and get back to us. Unless, of course, all genuine evidence has been suppressed and any so-called 'evidence' has been fabricated ?

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 9:16:51 PM
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Joe,

All the evidence is on record in the archives in
Canberra both in the National Library and in
the National Museum of Australia. They even have
exhibitions of show of the history of our Indigenous
People. This is available to anyone interested in
obtaining the records. As I've told you many times -
any good researcher would know how to find this
evidence. One has to simply be willing to seek it.

I politely suggest you make the effort and go to
Canberra once this lock-down is over and stop
posting fabrications on this forum.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 10:59:33 PM
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Foxy,

So once again you dodge out after having given us your opinion but refuse to explain just which part of your statement was meant to be funny and which was meant to be taken seriously,

In your superb ignorance, you missed the essential delineation.

Toni,

Haven't you ever heard of quotation marks (" ")?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 11 June 2020 8:07:47 AM
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Foxy,

No, actually. Until the 1967 Referendum, the States had responsibility for all Indigenous affairs (except for federal responsibility for the NT and the ACT), so all files relating to their respective social welfare, or Indigenous welfare, department were compiled and are now stored in their respective State Archives. If you had ever tried to find such a file, you would have realised that pretty quick.

My wife found hers in about an hour or so - she first registered with the State Archives people, then filled out a card detailing what she was after and presto ! - she was given it to read. She also applied for her mother's file and got that too. All on the one day, back around 1999.

Bureaucrats produce forms and reports and other documents, and file them away (like dung beetles, they keep everything) and very rarely destroy such files as might relate to Indigenous people. So they're there, just waiting for any Aboriginal people to come and check them out. Which, I'm sure, may have, perhaps to their surprise. Those who think they have a case of SG have probably taken them along to a lawyer. And we know the rest.

Of course, if you know of any Indigenous people, Foxy, you can check this out with them.

One successful case: Bruce Trevorrow. Actually, very indirectly, I met my wife through Bruce, or more likely his mother, or more likely her boyfriend, who was my wife's uncle's brother-in-law. I knew his brothers, and met his mum a couple of times. But apart from that, I didn't know the family.

And do you really think that, since Bruce was awarded $ 750,000-odd, other people wouldn't be interested in checking out their files ? Do you really think that Indigenous Legal Services around the country haven't urged people - maybe thirty years ago now - to check out their files ?

Evidence is there. And the truth depends on it. And no, I don't think we should, per se, respect authority, not even the authority of prominent Indigenous people, without question.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Thursday, 11 June 2020 11:14:13 AM
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Is Mise,

Kindly don't address any more posts to me.

I shall not be reading them or responding.

I'm not hear for your entertainment.

Joe,

The same goes for you.

Talk to Big Nana - you have more in common with her
than me.

There's a good chap.

I'm not interested in anything you have to say.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 11 June 2020 11:53:40 AM
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Foxy,

"Kindly don't address any more posts to me.

I shall not be reading them or responding.

I'm not hear for your entertainment

You may not be hear (sic) for my entertainment but hear this, you're 'ere and you can't stop me being entertained by your posts.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 11 June 2020 12:10:18 PM
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