A treaty is not what is being asked for.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jul/16/indigenous-recognition-what-if-anything-will-australians-be-asked-to-vote-on

//A treaty means, in practical terms, recognition of tribal law and the resultant deprivation of young Aboriginal girls of their rights as Australian citizens//

You know, of all the demands I've ever heard from Aboriginal rights activists from the quite reasonable to the ludicrously far-fetched, I've yet to hear a single one demanding the right to paedophilia.

This is interesting… how does NTA relate multiculturalism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_conflict

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Geertz

Non-territorial autonomy

The origin of NTA can be traced back to the Marxists works of Otto Bauer and Karl Renner. NTA was employed during the interwar period, and the League of Nations sought to add protection clauses for national minorities in new states. In the 1920s, Estonia granted some cultural autonomy to the German and Jewish populations in order to ease conflicts between the groups and the newly independent state.

NTA has emerged in recent years as an alternative solution to ethnic tensions and grievances in places that are likely to breed conflict. For this reason, NTA has been promoted as a more practical and state building solution than consociationalism. NTA, alternatively known as non-cultural autonomy (NCA), is based on the difference of jus solis and jus sanguinis, the principles of territory versus that of personhood. It gives rights to ethnic groups to self-rule and govern matters potentially concerning but limited to: education, language, culture, internal affairs, religion, and the internally established institutions needed to promote and reproduce these facets. In contrast to federalism, the ethnic groups are not assigned a titular sub-state, but rather the ethnic groups are dispersed throughout the state unit. Their group rights and autonomy are not constrained to a particular territory within the state. This is done in order not to weaken the center state such as in the case of ethnofederalism.

Other scholars, such as Clarke, argue that the successful implementation of NTA rests on the acknowledgement in a state of "universal" principles: true Rule of Law, established human rights,... Moreover, no individual can be forced to adhere, identify, or emphasize a particular identity (such as race, gender, sexuality, etc.) without their consent in order for NTA to function for its purpose.

Nonetheless, Clarke critiques the weaknesses of NTA in areas such as education, a balance between society wide norms and intracommunity values; policing, for criminal matters and public safety; and political representation, which limits the political choices of an individual if based solely on ethnicity.

Furthermore, the challenge in evaluating the efficacy of NTA lies in the relatively few legal implementations of NTA.

Emphasizing the limits of approaches that focus mainly on institutional answers to ethnic conflicts—which are essentially driven by ethnocultural dynamics of which political and/or economic factors are but elements—Gregory Paul Meyjes urges the use of intercultural communication and cultural-rights based negotiations as tools with which to effectively and sustainably address inter-ethnic strife. Meyjes argues that to fully grasp, preempt, and/or resolve such conflicts—whether with or without the aid of territorial or non-territorial institutional mechanism(s) -- a cultural rights approach grounded in intercultural knowledge and skill is essential.

Aboriginal Lady- I remember an aboriginal lady over 70 I found her half on a very busy road one day. I was sure what was happening with her so I rang the ambulance. The ambulance officers turned up after about a while- turned out that they knew her well- the first thing they said was "are you drunk again". I felt ashamed that I had taken the ambulance away from more important tasks.

I saw her a few weeks later with a group in the park drinking metho out of a paper bag.

Should I have tried to force her to live differently or let her slowly drink herself to death. At least she was with people she identified with in the park.

To me I'm bad either way. But I've made peace with that.

Aboriginal Young Man- I remember a young man that said to me one day that all non-Aboriginals in Australia should be removed or killed. There doesn't appear to be any negotiation here. I thought that perhaps some certainty and clarification needs to be provided here to Aboriginal culture so that they can move on with their cultures future- and develop in their own way. If they integrate with the rest of Australian culture they lose their own identity- I think that this would be a tragic loss to the world. Supposedly the non-racists favour the integration approach- strangely I feel that the non-racists are just as prejudiced in their own way. Also by being indecisive they are cruel. It seems Aboriginals are playing the victim in a similar way that Jewish people are sometimes accused of doing since they left Egypt.

If Aboriginals self harm and hold the country hostage to their demands by going on hunger strike and don't cooperate with the troubleshooting process or help to solve the problem- we need to solve the problem for them.

One of the issues is of course there isn't one Aboriginal Nation but many small ones- a difficult project with complicated expensive tax payer funded negotiations- there are many tactics used in negotiations- sometimes third parties can interfere in order to steal value out of the process.

I don't think the left want a solution- this is our Afghanistan- cruelty under the auspices of humanity- a particularly vicious form of evil.

The left argue that all wars are racist wars and wars between the classes.

Apparently Communist Russia was the main proponent of the Convention on Civil and Political Rights CCPR that contains the so called anti-hate laws that were ratified during the cold war in 1957 but not signed by the US until 1993