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What is the future of Australianness?

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Why accept a treaty with Aboriginal Australia when you can get total surrender.
Mr Opinion,
What difference would a Treaty make ? The outcome is still the same ! The effort that is needed to become part of the show instead of a subsidised onlooker is ultimately up to those who believe they're owed more than they provided to their own in the past !
In the whole of the scheme of things even the invader becomes a victim of invasion eventually !
This eventual is happening now !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 23 May 2020 2:19:48 PM
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Opinion,

I meant what I said, Australians together under one Government and one law, no special privileges for anyone based on so-called race or on who was here first.

If there are special privileges based on race then that is racism, pure and simple, and there can be none of that in a fair and equal society.

It's not a matter of anyone giving up, that happened long ago and if we embrace the idea that one's great-great-grandchildren are carrying on the fight then every nation on Earth (with few if any exceptions) would have to be making treaties with the very mixed-blood people who claim to be originals.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 23 May 2020 2:21:42 PM
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It is nonsense to think that a country can make a treaty with itself, or that citizens can make treaties with themselves,
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 23 May 2020 2:37:14 PM
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Aboriginality is a religion for the Left. The mantras of “Apology” and “Reconciliation” are not so much an effort to remedy anything in practical terms as they are the religious utterances of penitents engaging in ritual self-flagellation for the expiation of their sins - sins that are not even theirs.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 23 May 2020 2:59:17 PM
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We need to bust the myths about Aboriginal people.
That is important because it can be toxic if you
encounter the same negative stereotypes over and
over again. It leads to frustration, anger, and
eventually bad health.

If we perpetuate myths without questioning them we
demonstrate our own ignorance and illiteracy of
Aboriginal culture. Understanding why Australia's
First Peoples are so angry starts with an open mind,
and an education.

We've all heard the old - The British built Australia from
the ground up. Aboriginal people contributed significantly
to building Australia. Mostly without compensation.

All this happened in the past. Much trauma happened in the
past but bad things are still happening today.

I had nothing to do with it. We have a moral responsibility
to acknowledge and not let these things happen again.

Aboriginal people receive millions of dollars. A lot of money
is spent on Aboriginal affairs but very little trickles
through to where it is needed.

Aboriginals get special treatment - like houses and cars.
The government has no freebies for anyone. Programmes need
to be tailored to people especially those facing hardship.

It's time to move on. Aboriginal people should "get over it."
It is time to roll up the sleeves and do something.

A lot of Aborigines drink alcohol. Australia as a nation
has a drinking problem. Fewer Aborigines than non-Aborigines
drink alcohol.

There's violence and abuse against women and children in
their communities. Trauma leads to violence and abuse. It
is a world-wide problem.

Saying 'sorry'once should be enough.
Aboriginal people are not asking you to say 'sorry.'
They are asking you to respect and acknowledge their true
history.

All this was taken from the 'Creative Spirit' website.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 23 May 2020 3:24:43 PM
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Thanks Foxy,

"Reconciliation has elements of truth, justice, forgiveness, healing, reparation, and love."

"Supporting reconciliation means working to overcome the division (often called "the gap") and inequality between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people."

"Differences are biggest in health, income, living standards and life expectancy, but also prejudice and racism."

For some the idea of reconciliation is alien, not only do they ignore the past inequality, as if it didn't exist, they also ignore the present inequalities. Happy as people like ttbn, Indy and others were in times of mass discrimination, they now want to declare its all a rort, dreamt up by the "left" for nefarious reasons. Happy as they were to kick darkie into the gutter, they now want to maintain their position of privilege at the expense of the first Australians.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 23 May 2020 4:15:33 PM
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