Aaah Pericles.....there you go again.

I say you are "offended" by the message, not just the messenger, because you ridicule it, as you did in your last post "The Harry Potter of its day".

Then, you go right off the rails, and charge me with a
-'superiority' complex, and
-'hate' for those of different faiths.

I'm amazed that you think, that I think non Christians are 'inferior' to Christians ? I'll speak of 'lost' and 'saved' but not inferiority.. heaven forbid. You need to realize that regarding someone as 'lost' is not a value judgement on their intrinsic worth, but a statement of spiritual status and need, but are not yet in fellowship relationship with Him as God desires.

You are right that 'SOME' people use spiritual difference to feed generalized hate, but not me, so why mention it? You will always have an element in ANY belief system who have severe views of non them.

Pointing out the extreme dangers of the likes of this, cannot be construed as 'rabble rousing'... its just not possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKUoxbR9mwA

You have to accept that to rally Aussies against 'that' is not to rally them against "All Muslims".
Educating them about the nature of the Islamic mindset which produces the above behavior is hardly rabble rousing. It's unavoidable that in opening minds to what causes that behavior will have leakage in some people to attribute this mindset to 'all' Muslims no matter how much you differentiate between 'radical' and 'moderate'.
The simple solution is for Muslims themselves to publically condemn and oppose such things... problem solved. In the absense of that, others might do it.

Have a look at this please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7R_YZiRlPs&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWPvuAg4HjI

gasp...and "I" rabble rouse ?

1. why shouldn't she do it?

It's not nice to insult people

2. Why do some people have right to do so?

Freedome of speech. This is more important than being nice. Attacks on freedom of speech are inevitably far worse than whatever 'problem' they were tring to silence.

3. Who are those people?

Not some people. Everyone.

Boazy: "You are right that 'SOME' people use spiritual difference to feed generalized hate, but not me, so why mention it?"

Yeah right, Boazy. Ooh look - a pair of pigs just flew by my window...

Gee CJ...you better take up pigshooting..you got a 303 or don't you know what that is.
ALL wars were started because of beliefs, so if we want to learn from history we should not need to mormonise,judicise,islamise and criticise any body.Hanson had the right idea not supporting the aboriginals, see what J.H. is doing now then? Taking their land rights as well,(not a Hanson idea!)

Long bow, Boaz, a very long bow:

>>I say you are "offended" by the message, not just the messenger, because you ridicule it, as you did in your last post "The Harry Potter of its day"<<

I always admire the way you sidestep the main argument by taking issue with minutiae. It's a genuine talent.

"If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out"

Now that is a real reaction to being offended, wouldn't you say? Ridicule - if you can call my rather affectionate aside, ridicule - is not very high on the list of reactions to being offended, now is it?

And I went out of my way to show my affection by describing it as "a perfectly inoffensive document, full of wild and wacky stories about people with a need to identify with the spiritual world". Hardly the attitude of one who is offended, Boaz.

You, on the other hand, would be perfectly justified in being offended by my somewhat playful reference to a book that you revere.

>>You are right that 'SOME' people use spiritual difference to feed generalized hate, but not me, so why mention it?<<

I mention it because that is exactly, precisely and literally what you do. The sad part, I grant you, is that you don't realize it. But the reason that I keep harping on at you about your whack-a-mozzie antics is because you are using "spiritual difference to feed generalized hate"

Perilous.... the only 'mozzies' I'm whacking these days are the likes of those in those vids....

Bear in mind..this thread is about a specific subject, and I'm offering perspectives on 'that' topic... is it out of order ?

You must admit, they are terrible no ? My confidence in the Police is rising though, they are getting the Maroubra/Cronulla revenge attackers one by one.. but the sentencing is beyond belief.. weekend detention for those who hurled concrete blocks into the head of a hapless passer by ? to me thats attempted murder..not the lesser charge of Assault.

If I refrain from pointing out this material, you will just about lose your purpose in life eh :) which seems to be about 80% to pick on me.. (not that I mind)

I think the generalized hate you speak of.. is far more likely to arise from knee jerk reactions to NewsCorps very noticable 'marginalization' campaign.. and their exposure of Muslims in a bad light... than by me. Newscorp does not analyse.. it just shoots from the hip... I try to educate people about theological origins.

Speaking of which..this might strike your fancy.. if you can get past the ridiculous and innappropriate laugh of Dr James White (Christian apologist) you'll find he is a wealth of info on the Textual issues of the bible.
http://aomin.org/index.php?blogid=1&archive=2007-02&catid=12
Its pretty technical but if you begin from the 'free' link near the bottom of the page you will be greatly informed.
cheers