Say, while we're posing thorny moral dilemmas for each other's amusement - Is Mise, if your lone woman in her remote farmhouse gets charged by a rampaging study scrub bull and isn't quick enough on the draw, and as a result suffers a debilitatiting injuries that will result in chronic pain for the rest of her life, do you believe she has a moral right to try and alleviate that pain free from Government interference?

An no, I had never heard the stupefyingly tedious tale of Weary Dunlop and his pistols until I stumbled across it here, after which I had to skip over a number of posts because the discussion sounded almost exactly like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rzao52ndNA

Reckon I probably dodged a bullet there.

Hi Paul, good to see you again old chap. How's lockdown treating you? I ran out of other shite to do so I came back here to wind up some of the sad old tory whingers that haunt the forum.

Hi Toni,

Glad to hear all is okay, been a slow time for us. The biggest excitement was we had our boy over from Fiji earlier this year, he was all set, staying with us, ready to start studies in graphic design here in Brisbane when the virus hit. He hadn't travelled in his life before, so it was a big deal, difficult to organise etc. Just when it was all set, with him here, the virus hit the world, and was heading our way. We read the signs, and it was best for him to return back home and lose a year rather than be stuck in Australia without family, other than us, and nothing to do. There is always next year, or the year after. Otherwise "T" has been in pickle making mode, distributing them far and wide. She's done about 6 dozen jars, everything from sweet mustard, to the latest batch of beetroot and onion chutney yesterday, and there's more to come, so I'm told, "T" has a large lot of family and friends, and a lot of jars, (hopefully the f&f are all pickle eaters).

Just deciding if I should seriously reply to Issy old chap, he's not a bad old fella most of the time, or give him a bit more of the loony tunes! Nothing upsets the hard right conservative Tory more than a bit of humour. Cause for those guys life is "oh! so serious" its nothing to smile about!

Firstly Issy, please clarify if these people are in "fear of their lives" all the time, some of the time, or hardly ever. The truth is you only bring up these extreme minority instances not because you have great concern for remote farm women, or scrub bull attacks and such like, rather just as the rest of the SS and gun crazies want, you want an American style gun culture in Australia.

Your SS organisation members trained John Edwards in the use of firearms, which enabled him to murder his two children, later their mother committed suicide. None of the grubs at the SS had the guts to ever apologise, or say sorry, for what they done. What do you say to that.

Gun crazy venues, where you hang out, are temporally closed due to covid-19, it would be in the public interest if such places were closed permanently.

BTW, I could just imagine the consequences of some 85 year old, 'old fart' on a bus with a loaded gun in his pocket, for "self protection". Who is going to protect the rest of the community from this dribbling old fool with the gun in his pocket?
"Constable I am very sorry I shot that kiddy, but he wouldn't give up his seat for me, like he should, they have no respect constable, no respect at all for us old folks these days, I don't know what the younger generation is coming to, you know, they are getting so violent as well. Back in my day, when I was a lad....."

Why the Greens oppose the needless mass arming of the community for so called "self protection" is, as the evidence shows, hundreds in Australia, would be shot each each due to accident, misadventure or through callous disregard for human life. Yes we might avoid the occasional attack by the rampaging scrub bull, now and then, but hundreds would die needlessly at the same time. Due to gunnie selfishness they are prepared for such numbers dead so they can pursue their perverted pleasure at will. THAT IS THE REAL REASON.

Paul,

Rave on; but just tell us why the Greens and you, think that a firearm should never be used in self-defence I can understand their other reasons, but why do they oppose the use, our Laws don't so why do the Greens oppose the law?

I have no desire to carry a pistol, I have my walking sticks, which are all made of wood.

Why don't the Greens mention walking sticks in their war against self-defence?

Toni,

Read all the posts about Weary's pistols, I made a remark about them and Foxy called me a liar; not a good way to carry on a discussion, and the rest followed.

Paul,

"Your SS organisation members trained John Edwards in the use of firearms, which enabled him to murder his two children, later their mother committed suicide. None of the grubs at the SS had the guts to ever apologise, or say sorry, for what they done. What do you say to that."

What I say is that you will distort the truth at every opportunity,
you know full well, from previous discussion, that the SSAA refused the doctor membership of the pistol club and that they didn't admit him until their decision that he was not a desirable person to have a pistol was overridden by the NSW Commissioner of Police.

Why don't you and the Greens have a go at the Commissioner?
No guts, perhaps?