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Pandemic Plus Police State?

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The protections of the constitution go down the toilet the second there's a legitimate reason for people to give their consent.

Viral agents are now legitimate reason to:
Stop the movement of people
- inc. lockdown in your home, region or state under penalty of law
Track your movement of people and their contact with others
Check points - ask you where you're going and what you're doing and force you to take medical tests or vaccinations.
Remove you from where you live and prevent you from seeing loved ones.
End cash transactions, destroy the economy and force hasher economic measures in place.
Create a need for a Universal Basic Income, and forward all other Socialist / Marxist / Totalitarian agendas.

- And there's not a damn thing we can do about it.
You see people happy to dob in their own neighbours and have them arrested now, simply for leaving their homes whilst under curfew.

Look at the cornet government and businesses are now backed into:

Hypothetically, I might have coronavirus, but not be showing any symptoms.
I could inadvertantly cause the death of another person.
If businesses don't now recognise this risk and act accordingly they could be sued for negligence.
If governments don't now recognise this risk and act accordingly they could be seen to be incompetent and out of touch.
There's a new normal now.

This means that governments obligation to act and protect people and society against this new enemy they have to consider a whole different range of measures, and half the country will now support sending the other half to gulags if they don't comply.

Seems like a great time for the 'V for Vendetta' speech:
http://youtu.be/dKnjxT5HRJQ
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:23:24 AM
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You all realise that with the US ending funding for the WHO, then this makes Bill Gates the largest funder of the WHO.
This means the owner of Microsoft, a private individual who supports global depopulation is now in control of global heath.

Bill Gates's Depopulation Initiative
http://youtu.be/Gc16H3uHKOA

If you can't see conflicts of interest here then you're as dumb as a box of rocks.
If you really want to see what he's up to best place to start would be his foundation website as well as people and companies he's associating with and the list of mergers and acquisitions by both Microsoft and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, and any company or intellectual property under that umbrella.

On the 'lets get mad at China' front:
Who do we blame for this mess?

Is it China's fault for being China, or is it our fault for our unions jacking up wages, government for signing free trade agreements, universities promoting international education, business owners fault for selling out in an uncompetitive market where foreigners have an advantage and exporting all our manufacturing to China, or consumers for wanting cheap goods?
Regards the virus: If China (or any nation) is shown to have conclusively had a hand in this mess (either accidental or on-purpose) I most certainly will point the finger, I'm just not there yet.

I don't like jumping to conclusions because so often these days is just a narrative, designed to manipulate your opinion.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:55:28 AM
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or is it our fault for our unions jacking up wages, government for signing free trade agreements, universities promoting international education, business owners fault for selling out in an uncompetitive market where foreigners have an advantage and exporting all our manufacturing to China, or consumers for wanting cheap goods?
Armchair Critic,
So true ! Only a few days ago I heard some mutt on the ABC saying that it's time to bring the minimum up. I simply cannot fathom this mentality but at the risk of Paul1405 accusing me to want to give more money to the wealthy & less to the lower paid, wouldn't it be economically more beneficial to bring down the highest/very high salaries ?
Posted by individual, Friday, 17 April 2020 1:25:13 PM
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'Viral agents are now legitimate reason to:
Stop the movement of people
- inc. lockdown in your home, region or state under penalty of law
Track your movement of people and their contact with others
Check points - ask you where you're going and what you're doing and force you to take medical tests or vaccinations.
Remove you from where you live and prevent you from seeing loved ones.
End cash transactions, destroy the economy and force hasher economic measures in place.
Create a need for a Universal Basic Income, and forward all other Socialist / Marxist / Totalitarian agendas.

- And there's not a damn thing we can do about it.
You see people happy to dob in their own neighbours and have them arrested now, simply for leaving their homes whilst under curfew.'

well written and so true Armchair. Thankfully some are starting to revolt in the US. Here it won't happen until appeasement money runs out. At least that's the way I see it. Meanwhile some overpaid public servant and the abc are pushing for more money. Funny how Bill Gates could not stop windows from many virus's and yet people are looking to him for a vaccine. I am told he has trialled many vaccines in Africa which he would not use on his own kids. I have not confirmed that but as a globalist he is likely to lack character if anything like Soros, the UN etc. Funny how this mob all pushed the gw conspiracy.
Posted by runner, Friday, 17 April 2020 4:07:10 PM
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" … there has been so little scrutiny from the public or the press of the decisions made by the government and by the health authorities" (John Roskam, IPA)

Much of the Australian media has failed to fulfil some of their most basic responsibilities in a free society, namely to question the government and hold it to account.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 17 April 2020 5:37:40 PM
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As we move away from a liberal democracy towards a one party totalitarian state, its comforting to know this is all being done with the full blessing and support of the people. Like somewhere else in 1933, temporary emergency measures must always be enacted for the good of the majority. WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER! So malcontents who are subverting what is for the common good of the people, they must be delt with accordingly, we cannot afford dissent at this most critical time, that which is for the good of the common people! So get used to it! Have you got your app? If not, WHY NOT! Under the new law and order regime, not having your app is a crime, not taking your mobile phone with you wherever you go is a crime. If your phone is turned off, that to is also a crime. If you give your phone to another person that is defiantly a crime. If your app is turned off that to is a crime. If you do not produce you mobile phone when ordered to do so that is a serious crime. These most necessary emergency measures will be in place for 5 years, from where they shall be revived with the prospect of an indefinite extension. To disagree with this edict is also a crime.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 17 April 2020 8:08:53 PM
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