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Pandemic Plus Police State?

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AC,

You do agree with Zimmermann's position, then. I think I do too. The source of the virus, the blame, has been dealt with, and there's nothing we can do about it. Our own government needs to be scrutinised and held to account now. They are the only ones who can fix the problem - or not.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 16 April 2020 6:03:54 PM
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They are the only ones who can fix the problem - or not.
ttbn,
Only with a cooperative society though !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 16 April 2020 6:22:43 PM
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individual,

Most people appear to have cooperated and done the right thing, but it's all wearing a bit thin.

I got a laugh from the news tonight: apparently the flow of illegal drugs into the country has slowed or stopped, so the bored in isolation are hitting the grog more than ever. 'I can't stop drinking', said one interviewee. I wonder if these people ever stop to wonder how people who don't drink or drug deal with stress and disappointment in their lives.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 16 April 2020 7:41:00 PM
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people who don't drink or drug deal with stress and disappointment
ttbn,
Well, I'd imagine they're of the mentality that sees care & responsibility as beneficial instead of a flaw !
They'd probably be supportive of my call for a national Service.
Posted by individual, Friday, 17 April 2020 8:02:47 AM
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Many complacent people, like Australians, who have had everything nice and easy, don't believe that their politicians could ever ever emerge as dictators. Dictators are foreign. They don't speak English. They look different. But these foreign dictators, who don't speak our language, who don't look like us - e.g Xi Jinping - do speak the same language as their victims; they look like their victims.

There is nothing special or different about Australians. We don't care about politics. Does anyone really think that we are any different from the Chinese who live in the worst dictatorship, in which 1.3 billion politically-disinterested people are subjugated by a mere 6.5% of the population?

Forget about the rule of law stuff; the oldest continuous democracy stuff; the Constitution can't be changed without our permission stuff; it simply couldn't happen here stuff - that's all theory. Irrespective of the 'emergency' and the rights or wrongs of the current lockdowns and loss of freedoms, we have now seen how easy it is for politicians to manipulate the law and change our lives. Most Australians have just accepted what 'experts' have said, and accepted restrictions we would never have dreamed of accepting a mere couple of months ago if we had been told such things would happen. Now, there are sane, rational people saying that we cannot trust our seemingly benign politicians to not become addicted to the powers that they have given themselves. Think about it.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 17 April 2020 9:12:17 AM
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Trying to make Scott Morrison seem better than he really is, Liberal Party urger, Michael Kroger, has opined that the PM has done brilliantly handling the economic and health crises (there was not an economic crisis until the PM kicked one off) and, if he gets the economic recovery right, Scott Morrison will “go down as another Howard or another Menzies.

That’s the sort of muck the overlords use to lull us into a false sense of security.

And, the bloke who caused the economic crisis is going to fix it? Yeah! The only way for the economy to recover from the PM’s hideous bout of socialism is for politicians to get out of the way.

As a minor aside that shows how even the lowest of our supposed-to-be-representatives are arrogant and above normal behaviour, a Burnside councillor (Adelaide’s leafy suburbs) has been seen drinking wine and cider during an online council meeting. Much huffing and puffing/we’ll ban alcohol (after the incident was publicised, not before it was allowed to occur). But the bloke is obviously a drunk - can’t even leave it alone during a meeting - and would have been tanked up anyway. No this is not a “minor aside”. It should give us pause to think about the possible effects that the drinking and drugging habits of elected politicians might be having on their decisions.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:13:11 AM
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