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I think that “point of bankruptcy” might be an exaggeration - at the moment - but Australia will not be in good economic shape after the China virus is beaten. And, who will get the blame? Scott Morrison, not China.

This is why Morrison should act decisively against China. He won’t, of course, not just because like all Australian politicians he is frightened of China, but because he is unlikely to have read much philosophy.

Hayek wrote: “The one thing a modern democracy will not bear without cracking is the necessity of a substantial lowering of the standards of living in peacetime or even ‘stationariness’ of its economic conditions”.

So, a good chance that one of the outcomes of the China virus will be Socialist government lead by the clownish Anthony Albanese, who could really bankrupt the country.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:20:18 AM
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" Australia should confiscate all Property in Australia held by members of the Communist regime, to recover losses."

http://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/larry-klayman-files-20-trillion-dollar-lawsuit-against-china-for-creation-and-release-of-covid-19/?utm_source=mostpopular

Personally I'd settle for Australia just waking up to ourselves and realising what an error our leaders from the 80s and 90s made when they decided to tie our future to the Chinese economy. And then doing something about it. Pivot to Taiwan, Vietnam, India with alacrity.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:25:13 AM
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Australians are not keen on stupid rules, either, the latest one being NSW deciding to fine anyone out and about without a "good" reason $11,000. They don't like hypocrisy either, revealed in a tweet from by James Morrow:

"171 coronavirus cases across Australia now linked to Ruby Princess. Keep that in mind when the NSW Premier hectors you about not doing the right thing".
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:27:00 AM
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" A commercial aircraft carrying 80 tons of gloves, masks, gowns and other medical supplies from Shanghai touched down in New York on Sunday,..."

Well let's hope they are better than the stuff they sold to Europe.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-distributed-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-throughout-europe-reports-indicate/

Still, even a communist can't screw up making gloves. Can they?
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:50:53 AM
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"Communist China expects Australia to 'bend the knee';"

We can say whatever we want in our country.
We're not an extension of their country, we're not their province.

"Nobody is safe from Chinese Communist Party brutality, a 'homicidal regime', that aspires to silence any voice raised against it. The CCP bluffed our national carrier, Qantas into refraining from calling Taiwan the Republic of China (which Taiwan is called by the Taiwanese)."

Don't really care, that's between China and Taiwan.
It's not an issue occurring in Australia, nor directly affects Australians.

"Australian university staff have been asked (by China) to provide their passport details before teaching Chinese students. China 'demands' that critics of the PRC like Liberal politician, Andrew Hastie be silenced."

University staff shouldn't be required to provide passport details to any foreign government, and China shouldn't get any special treatment;
- But university Staff who teach international students should be listed in a accessible directory that shows their position, qualifications and contact details (email) at the institution.

China has no authority to dictate what our elected leaders can and can't say, likewise we have no authority to dictate what their leaders can or can't say.
If our elected leaders choose to 'criticise' China, or any other nation, then that's an issue for our nation, it's elected leaders and it's citizens.
If the people do not agree with what an elected leader says they'll remove him as is their democratic right.
China should remember that we're a democracy, and our nations citizens have a duty to criticise their government.
We're free to criticise anything we want but we don't have the right to tell them what to do;
They too can criticise anything they want, but they don't have the right to tell us what to do.

"Catholic Australians should know that China forced the Pope to agree with Communist officials choosing bishops in China. In the Pope's defense, he probably feared what could happen to Chinese Catholics if he did not acquiesce."

That's a issue for China and it's citizens, foreigners shouldn't get involved in other nations domestic affairs.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:05:19 PM
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Some seem to forget that the reason we are so close to China is that they were the ones who wanted to buy our coal & iron ore in the quantities we needed to sell to keep our economy afloat. That it is barely afloat even with these exports proves how critical the China exports are to our economy.

I wonder how many realise that any reduction in the purchase of these by China will make recovery from the current spendathon on fighting the virus so much harder, if not impossible to achieve.

Indian increases in coal requirements may help, & we should remember just how hard the Greens fought to try to stop Indian involvement in our coal mining industry.

In the short term we have only Asia as a market for the only products we can produce competitively, coal, iron ore & some farm produce, & the Greens are fighting tooth & nail to make farming fail by wasting much water in greenie wet dreams.

A labor government, or any increase in green influence could easily cause total failure in a recovery here, leaving us the poor white trash of the South Pacific.

Don't get any idea I have much faith in the present lot, but Labor are such a captive of the ratbag greens, that there is no chance of them taking suitable action.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:41:22 PM
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