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Emotional Claptrap About A Damn Car

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I wonder who will buy the last new Holden?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 11:37:44 PM
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Hasbeen, I don't usually get it wrong, and on this one I know I'm right.
The design was ex Opel, the engine in the early Commodores were different variants of the iconic Holden 186 design, which was a direct take off of the chevy 6 cyl US engine, only smaller.
The later deal was that the the US provided the chevy V8's and we in turn sent them transmission components.
The bread and butter V6 engine that ran for years was a reject from some other European car, it was tried in a small US car and was a failure, so they threw it our way, it was never a success.
I don't remember exact details, but the Commodore was a direct early player of the world car concept, in other words it was cheaper to make one car to sell to the world, scale of economy, and all that.
The Commodore was one of the new breed of cars that was to be referred to as "badge engineering".
All the other companies got on the band wagon as well.
The Mazda 323 was re-badged as a laser and a Meteor for Ford to replace the Escort and other models, even later, the Cortina for the Aussie market.
The public were none the wiser, thinking they were totally different cars, when in fact they were exactly the same cars.
I'm sorry but that's why I hate marketing and sales people, because they have to lie and BS to sell something because they know if they told the truth, they would not sell many of whatever it is they were trying to sell.
The Aussie market has always been a tough one, and it never took to foreign cars.
Maybe they were threatened by them or they just were not up to the Aussie outback conditions.
There was a company over East that foreign car makers would send their cars to, to be tested and Aussiefied.
Basically they would rehash the suspension to make them survive the Aussie outback, gravel roads, corrugations, etc.
The Mitsubishi Magna was just one such car.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 20 February 2020 12:47:44 AM
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the unions had nought to do with that.
Is Mise,
Are you certain ? Ask yourself why the Govt saw it necessary to go to Korea in the first place ?
Me thinks more reliability & less cost than an Australian outfit ! Just my guess.
An Australian tile company would have have been plagued by Union interference.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 20 February 2020 7:38:57 AM
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individual,

"Me thinks more reliability & less cost than an Australian outfit"

No, the reason was that the NSW Government accepted the lowest tender regardless of the effect on Australian industry and, of course, the possibility of a few backhanders.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 20 February 2020 8:40:16 AM
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is Mise,
Just about all manufacturing has packed up & departed this Nation because Union wage demands were unsustainable.
The proof is there for all to see !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 20 February 2020 10:57:35 AM
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For those of you obsessed with wage growth, or the company cheating the workers out of money they are entitled to, you need to stop and reboot your thinking.
Firstly, the main and probably the only thing that is affected by a lower wage is more expensive imports.
Something I care not about.
A country finds a balance of supply and demand.
If the wages are $10 an hour, the cost of living will also stabilise so as to accommodate the income levels of the population, because the money is going round internally within the country.
So we don't feel any different in shopping, unless we buy imported goods, which I refuse to do.
Our shopping doctrine is to buy Australian, even better, buy local.
Now at the other end of the spectrum we have people pushing for wage increases continually, all this does is feed the boom/bust machine.
I would demand that the inflation rate not exceed around 1 or 2%, to keep pushing up inflation does US, the people no good, only the greedy elite bastards and the banks.
So when you lot have quite finished pushing for wage rises, stop and think, why are we no better off than 50 or more years ago?
How many pay packets did it take to buy a house back then, and how many does it take to buy one now.
If your stupid theories are correct we should be able to afford a house easier today.
Why can't we?
You friggin idiots are so smart on the left, try and talk your way out of this one.
Or, better still, get one of your scum-bag con-men union mates to explain it.
It's a shame people have to be so flawed as to not only put their own lives at risk but that of others, family and friends, not to mention complete strangers like the rest of Australia.
Like I said in another topic, it's clear by the mental aptitude of most Aussies, that they are descended from monkeys, and not as in the bible, and have not progressed much since.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 20 February 2020 12:07:17 PM
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