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Emotional Claptrap About A Damn Car

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ALTRAV,

Have you not heard of accountants?

Big businesses have them to make sure that, among other things, the finances are kept legitimate.
Rarely does the accountant underpay taxes so why were so many companies caught out underpaying wages?

I'm sure that you know the answer but find it akin to vinegar instead of wine.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 3:01:00 PM
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ALTRAV,

Are you against paying extra for working in confined spaces, danger money, wet money etc.?

Do you think that a person should be paid for the importance of their job?
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 3:49:41 PM
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Issy, firstly, accountants are only people.
I have two sons, both are Chartered Accountants.
Yeah, I know, what are the odds that I had an actual personal attachment to your question.
My point is, they are human, and at some point they will stuff up, hopefully not, BUT!
I, and the family have and still do have accountants on the payroll.
Believe me, or don't believe me, accountants make mistakes, miss deadlines, forget payments, and the list goes on.
As I said, they are only human, and such, you get good and bad in every facet of work or life.
As for the question of pay scale relative to the type of work, dangerous or demanding.
I have always believed that no matter what the job, only a dangerous or physical job should have an extra payment attached to it.
In the good ole' days that sentiment was relative.
But today it's not.
The insurance and health OCC, took care of all that by dumbing down and reducing the physical demands in the workplace, to accommodate the maggots, and feminazi's who insist that they are as good as or equal to any man.
They were so good and equal that we ended up with some of the most pathetic Nancy industrial laws in history.
Cement bags suddenly halved in weight, from 20kg to 10kg, just to accommodate these pathetic maggots, and this went through all trades and industries.
So to answer your question about getting paid extra for certain jobs, NO these days everything has a machine or gadget to make life in the physical world easier.
Now as for the white collar industry, well those leaches definitely don't deserve the pays they get.
The higher up the ladder you go, the slacker and easier your job gets, if only because you have PA's, secretaries and a whole office full of people to do your bidding.
I should know, one example; I set up a company and in the beginning I was on the floor teaching, eventually I pulled back to let the business run itself.
to be cont................
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 4:57:25 PM
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cont.......

After stepping back, coming to work dressed like a Boss, looking and acting the part, I have to say, I didn't like this new phase, it was boring, I did nothing all day, I had my usual #1, #2, #3 underlings and so on who knew what to do and did it, with little or no questions.
I suppose I should have been happier or more humble because I did such a good job establishing the company and teaching the workers, that I basically did myself out of a job.
But trust me if not because I was an owner, I would not justify the huge and unconscionable salaries some managers and CEO's get, or anyone at the top of these big corporations, like banks and so on.
An owner is a totally different kettle of fish.
He puts up money, sometimes ALL his money and ALL his time, so it is HE who is committed, and HIS neck on the line, so I cannot begrudge someone who has taken such a huge risk and gambled his life on the line.
If he succeeds, he deserves every penny he gets.
If the company goes viral, like Microsoft and the like, then all better and luckier for him.
He took the risk then he deserves the spoils, unchecked, and unchallenged!
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 5:11:04 PM
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ALTRAV,

A few posts back you said,

"Don't you sometimes wonder why things are so expensive?"

No, I don't because most things are far cheaper than they were years ago.

On your remarks on cement, the standard bag in Australia is 20kg and in the USA it is some 48 kg, guess which country has the higher rate of hernias?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 27 February 2020 11:33:35 AM
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Issy, don't try me, I "wrote the book".
Let me correct you.
Firstly your assertion is absolutely and totally wrong, because you must compare like for like.
You will find the odd thing that has become cheaper, can't think of any, BUT, in the main, any Aussie made item, product or service, is HUGELY and MANY TIMES more expensive today than years ago.
And I'm not forgetting about another bad disease called inflation.
Remember Aussie for Aussie, not Aussie for Asian.
As for the cement bags, we were MEN back then, today they are neuters, snags and wimps, who couldn't lift their own manhood to have a leak.
Issy your point about hernias is basically irrelevant, as it is too broad and unqualified a comment.
If there are stats on it, I want to know who the authors are, who commissioned the report, what was the criteria and questions, and a million other questions, before I accept any such stat.
I don't care to debate such things as work ethics.
If a guy is such a wimp, then muster the help of someone to help, are people that stupid today?
Anyway I feel that stat highly unlikely, because there are too many physical aids today to mitigate such things happening.
I'll tell you why they are injuring themselves, it's called mis-adventure, and the most common are socially driven activities like sports, NOT WORK!
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 27 February 2020 8:05:01 PM
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