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Emotional Claptrap About A Damn Car

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Hi o sung wu, how are you doing?

I've driven a few Holdens too, back when the government & company been counters bought locally produced company/government cars. Also drove a few bought at auction when those government departments had finished with them. It was a pretty good way of getting good cheap cars.

I also drove one that was a bit special, a 327 "Bathurst" Monaro, at Bathurst for the original Holden Dealers Team in 1968,making the podium. It was truly remarkable that a brand new car, only just released could take all 3 places on the podium in a race as grueling & hard on the equipment as the Bathurst 500. It generally takes a couple of years, & a lot of updates & improvements to get a new car fully reliable.

It speaks volumes for the design & building quality that Holden had in the late 60s that they could do it first off.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 6:12:22 PM
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G'day HASBEEN, how have you been?

Been a while for sure. They weren't too bad the old Commodores. Made good reliable GD transport for general patrol work, but I never owned one myself. And you're right, the Holden engineers could prepare a superb race car back in the sixties, for Bathurst. I never liked the Monaro very much, an ugly car (only my opinion) but it was well prepared for the track. When I saw this topic come online, I immediately thought of you, and wondered what, with your racing pedigree, your thoughts of another Aussie icon biting the dust, what other symbols can we destroy I wonder? I'm glad I'm in my eighties, I don't wish to live and see this once great country disintegrate into nothing?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 6:33:24 PM
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Individual,

"...And, the people who are causing this dreadful situation are safely tucked away in their comfort zone, funded by their victims"

I presume that you mean the unions?

Makes me think of the demise of the Lithgow Tile Works in NSW, just before they shut their doors the NSW Government contracted with Korean interests to supply all the tiles for the renovation of the Sydney Underground Railway stations, the unions had nought to do with that.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 7:35:00 PM
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Paul, not wanting to repeat the obvious mate, BUT, I understand you don't want to hear anything maligning your beloved unions.
Unfortunately, history and the record shows, that the unions have been the single worst thing to have been allowed to live.
It is fact that had the Aussie industries been allowed to pay what they were offering, without any outside nasty forces sticking their evil noses into where they should not have, we would have had a very fruitful production industry, and only a fool or moron or worse would disagree.
The economy would have balanced itself, as it does, if left alone with no external influences.
The salaries would have settled at a level where it was fair and equitable, because the cost of living would have settled naturally, at a rate affordable and relative to people's income.
Unfortunately for the greed and averace of these union mongrels, all they managed to do was increase the price of our goods to the point they were too expensive to export.
You do know that some many years ago we had a reasonable export economy, until your poxy mates decided they were going to screw the dumb worker with a load of snake oil sales talk, and hey presto, we have wage and cost of living rises, and at the other end at exactly the same rate we have exports diminishing, to the point where they are almost non-existent.
How does it feel to be the Judas amongst us?
Then we add your other moronic mental cases, the animal liberationists, and you lot are at it again trying to end the only major export left, besides mining and agriculture.
I will not be surprised if your moronic mates are working on ways to kill them off as well.
And with that done we can all rely on the greens, the politically correct the neuters the queers and all the other more important than the Aussie public, for income.
Can't wait!
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 8:13:50 PM
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I have to inform people that the LAST Holden, did not end the other day.
It ended with the demise of the KINGSWOOD.
The Commodore was in fact our introduction to the "World Car Concept".
The Commodore, as has been correctly stated, was in fact an OPEL.
And it sported a Vauxhall badge in the UK, a Chevrolet badge in the US, and a straight Opel badge, in Europe.
We were producing left hand drive variants for GM USA, for a while, along with, I believe a Pontiac model, obviously with Pontiac livery and a slightly different looking front and rear.
We actually supplied Commodore Statesmans for the US police dept's because of the extra 4" in the back allowed for the fitment of a safety screen without compromising rear passenger comfort. (or perps)
They were badged, Chevy Caprice, which is where the word Caprice came from initially, from the US GM Chevy models.
And that's why they were called Statesman Caprice, it also made it easier to badge in the US because the model name did not change, it simply went back home from whence it came.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 8:34:16 PM
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Sorry ALTRAV, but that is totally wrong.

The last few Holdens were all Oz. They may have picked up an engine here & there, & some transmission bits, but the design, engineering, & more importantly the road testing & development of the thing was all Ozzy.

In fact the last few Commodores were probably the best cars that GM were building anywhere in the world, & owed nothing to any of the front drive stuff they are building today.

I don't believe there is any car coming out of US or Europe that is the equal of the last Commodores, even at a couple of times the price. Prettier trim perhaps, so a better place to sit in your broken car waiting for recovery.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 11:20:16 PM
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