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Do Politicians Really Care About the People?
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Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 6:00:55 AM
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How's it all going Mark Buckley?
Dan Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 9:19:27 AM
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Of course there are politicians who are in the game because they care about people.
In Australia, they just happen to be the ones associated with Labor and the Greens who represent a society based on a more equitable distribution of wealth and power. They tend towards socialist ideologies which aim at reducing social inequalities and provide equal opportunities independent of a person's social status. The Liberals and the Nationals represent capitalism and a less equitable distribution of power and wealth. They believe "greed is good" as Gordon Gekko proclaimed in the movie 'Wall Street'. They believe in unbridled exploitation of one social group over another social group. They believe that the legal system should serve the upper class at the expense of the lower class. Etc., etc., etc. Look at Albanese and Morrison. It's easy to see which one is in it for the people and which one is in it for himself. Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 9:56:44 AM
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LNP and ALP are two sides of the same coin. I was in parliament when Turnbull acknowledged two retired MP's Alanah McTiernan and Bruce Billson and they were applauded! They were there because they lead a joint High Court action on stopping a reduction in MP's travel entitlements after retirement, they failed.
Crushing irony, Alanah went on to be made (In commonwealth retirement) a State MP and then a State Minister again. Does she get two State pensions and a Commonwealth one? Brucie got pinged for not declaring monies paid to him. We get what we vote for! Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:38:27 AM
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Mr Opinion: You must have a very personalized definition of what "capitalism" is.
Here's the definiton given by Merriam-Webster: "an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market." (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism) As you can see. The main-stream definition says NOTHING about most of the things you are claiming/hinting that fall under (or are due to) capitalism. That is, capitalism doesn't require: - class structure, - the "greed is good" mantra, - the legal system being biased to one class than another, - the unbridled exploitation of one social group over another social group. If you want to visit example of western countries which have a private sector based on a very free market economy (ie: one heavily influenced by capitalism with regards to the private sector) then visit Denmark or Sweden. If you want to visit a western country which has a lot of governmental interference with the free market in the private sector then visit the United States. Posted by thinkabit, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:48:22 AM
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JBowyer,
What a load of gobbledygook! Political speaking, Liberal and Labor politicians are as different as chalk and cheese. All you have just done is to show to everyone how a man with little knowledge takes a long time to tell you how little he knows. Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:49:24 AM
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However that was not the first order of business for the day for the National Party, whose constituency has been impacted to a greater degree than any other parties by these horrific fires. What did the Nationals see as the priority? Not the bushfires, or the coronavirus troubling Australia, the worsening economy, nah, climate change heaven forbid, but rather who gets the top job, and presumably the top money, available to one of their own as party leader and deputy PM. As Barney Joyce said; something like, who can be expected to live on a backbencher's pay...certainly not me!