Paul, I read it too, and I did not make any opinions, unlike you.
I read it in good faith and accepted what she had to say because I know of the vial maggots that she has and is having to contend with and how they think.
I find the case of the teacher to be a usual part of their day, the infatuated teenager, whether by nature or rebelling, coming onto them.
And as much as YOU and millions of other lemmings might disagree, guess what, they were willing participants, and don't forget the parents of today tell their little maggot princesses that they can do/be anything they want.
Well they only heard the words, "do what they want", and there you have it.
And before you make any smart arse response like he should know better, or it's against the law, I for one don't care, she was the one making the advances and she succeeded in achieving her goal.
Paul sometimes I wonder if your not a female using the name Paul to put us off, because your attitude is not that of a man.
If you are a man then you must be a neuter, because I can tell you if I was ever in a situation such as this teacher, I would do exactly the same thing.
Those who disagree, just put it down to one of her life's lessons.
Should today's parents administer some discipline and tell their daughters to act more 'ladylike' and less 'slutty', we would not be having these conversations and teachers would have to actually be pedophiles and wrong'ens to be accused of such acts.

Paul,

So because you disagree with Bettina's opinions, you as a member of a far left whinge party deem her to be unfit for an award in spite of all her contributions over the years.

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 8 February 2020 6:47:24 PM

" ... rEPRUSu, total lack of comprehension on your part. ... "

I don't think so Pauline, and it increasingly appears as if you are in the minoirity on that one.

" ... As far as I am aware there was nothing contained in Ms Hennassy letter to the GG that indicated she had been approached by Ms Batty on the matter, she may have been, we don't know. Therefore the GG, and in turn the committee, would be ignorant of any approach being made by Ms Batty to Ms Hennassy. As I said; "That in no way should influence the decision of the GG through the committee." ... "

I think that you're letting your emotions get in the way. You start off with, "As far as I am aware .. and then you some up with "we don't know."

I think most if not all of us understand that unless you work closely with hennessy, or otherwise have a channel into her office that you would of course be largely clueless about the contents of the letter.

However, if we were to speculate we could perhaps not unreasonabley suspect that it is unlikely that hennesy would name drop, as it is not consistent with best practice legal writing and may perhaps have just indicated more broadly that she had received numerous complaints including those from well known public figures.

On top of that, this matter has now received a not insignificant amout of public attention and whilst it is not a certainty, it is likely that the g.g.'s office would have some awareness of that fact. At least, in considering matters of public controversy, it stands to reason that some consideration of the wide array of public views on this would be taken into consideration, regardless of what amount of weight was given to same in their ongoing deliberations.

Thereafter your attempt to refute what I have written about what you wrote yourself has degenerated into a state of incoherence. You'll have to do better.

SM

"... Sounds like sour grapes to me ... "

Whilst Pauline may not be religious, he is, after all, a "believer" of sorts. And as is not uncommon we see "believers" at their frothing at the mouth best when they have their most cherished beliefs are challenged.

And whilst it does not apply to all feminist supporters, the prevailing majority, as many of us have started to show, want to tar all those accused with the same brush by seeking to have the accused seen to be guilty pre-judgment.

("contempt" of judicial process)

Further, they wish for all of the alleged victims to be seen as entirely innocent and have "special consideration" given to them above and beyond how everyone else is treated in such actions.

Worse still, even after, for right or for wrong, a person has been convicted and done their time, these people want for the person to be made into a second class citizen and reviled for all time.

Whilst a person may be released conditionally, I think that it is safe to assume that in this case that there is no prohibition on the offender in question doing interviews, and no prohibition on the likes of Bettina interviewing them.

But as is common with some "believers," they wish to inflict their views on everyone regardless, above and beyond the stipulates of the law, and it is at that point that the likes of Ms Arndt are quite right to go after them.

This is a multicultural country. We do not all share the same culture, believes and values but are rather bound together by common rules and regs. Thus, suffice to say those people who want to insist that we all converse, in the same manner, disgust me.

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Our resident Father may wish to provide instruction to Pauline on the nature of redemption and why that is important to societies partly founded in Judeo-Christian morality etc etc

Shadow,

You totally misunderstand where I am coming from. You say; "because you (paul1405) disagree with Bettina's opinions"

This is what I said;

"Not withstanding who objects, and who does not, its my opinion that on several grounds Arndt is not worthy of an O of A. She has misrepresented her qualifications, not of great significance, she has defended criminals, and attacked child victims of those criminals, somewhat more significant. But most impotently I do not believe Bettina Arndt meets the requirements of the award. Simply put she has not done enough to merit such an award."

"Again I ask, show me her outstanding achievements that qualify her for such a prestigious award. There is nothing in her CV that qualifies her, end of story."
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 3 February 2020 5:40:05 PM

I also posted "Most of what the woman (Arndt) had to say, seems to me to be fair and reasonable." I have posted that on some things I agree with her.

If there was some minor award to be handed out, I would have no objection to Arndt receiving some small token, but an Order of Australia, I think not.

Paul, I have several friends who have received O of A, one for writing a discipline and fitness program for the Air Force, another a school principal for his long service to the community. If you were awarding the awards they might register in your award list equal to Gough or Paul but they have added much to the areas in which they have served.