Hopefully most of us can agree on the following:

1. It is not men who lie, or woman who lie, but rather people who lie.

2. Innocence should be assumed until appropriately proven otherwise.

In some state jurisdictions, they are making judgments and orders against people,

in absentia

(and not uncommonly completely without the accused person's knowledge)

without admission

(no plee of guilty or otherwise)

and without testing the veracity of the accusations.

The next thing that often happens, is Dad finds himself out of his own house and legally restrained from having anything to do with his family. Damage done.

And, self-representation being too much for many, you then find yourself at the mercy of what I call, "The Cult of the Wig Parasite" who will for the price of a small house attempt to have your child/ren recovered for you.

Even in the instance where one partner has quite maliciously taken the children for no other reason than to spite a former partner, the only lawful remedy becomes "A house for a kid." And in fact, this is the hook to provide the compelling push factor to make one want to pay ludicrous amounts of money.

And whilst I can readily accept that some people take their children away for entirely legitimate reasons, sadly, it is not always the case.

So, one of the fundamental problems is, is that the majority of twits in this country keep voting for the vile scum of the mainstream political establishment who have instituted "One Arm Kangaroo Courts," wherein some of the demented wig parasites who masquerade as legitimate judicial officers look like they pray to make their decisions.

eg "He struck me when I was feeding baby."

"He flopped it out at our daughter's birthday party,"

and thereafter,

"Oh yes. How terrible. I'm satisfied!"

and the hammer comes down.

How can there be a "balance of probabilities" when only one side of the story is heard pre-judgment?

It is a mockery, a travesty and as said, a bastardisation of justice that some people take great glee in abusing.

rEPRUSu, welcome to the FORUM.

This is a forum (On Line Opinion), not a courtroom, there is no judge and jury. I started the discussion with a question; "Is Bettina Arndt a Fit and Proper Person?" Then read the opening post by me which outlines what is behind the question. Its not about what Ms Arndt believes or doesn't believe. In fact many thing she has said I agree with. Its about her eligibility for such a prestigious award as an O of A, has she done enough in her career to justify such an award. I believe not, as I can't find anything in her CV that justifies the award, which read;

"significant service to the community as a social commentator, and to gender equity through advocacy for men".

I can't find anything in her career that in my mind shows she fulfils the wording of the award.

This is one of those issues I take much offence to, then I become angry when I wonder how did this happen, and why?
Who in any sane state of mind would come up with this crap, and I am including Weinstein, Crosby and Harris in this despicable and vial injustice.
I don't care what they did.
I care about the fact that some ambitious maggot with an over active need to become a Hollywood poser, comes onto these famous celebs and decades later, out of the blue, these maggots, egged on by even bigger maggots like the 'me too' movement, suddenly and without the proper protocol accuse these guys of a wrong doing, ACCORDING TO THE MAGGOTS!
Disgusting, and I truly hope these types suffer a painful death at some time in their lying scheming low-life futures.
Think about it.
Nothing was broken.
No-one was physically attacked.
The least that happened was they were groped, big deal, not an offence back then, and that's when this should have been taken care of, but because it is a non starter the system rejected the whole thing, even if it was reported, which in most cases it wasn't, because that was the norm back then, and THEY KNEW IT!
Anyway the men know that the females hold the key to this whole thing.
If a female wants to taunt or tease a man she can.
If a man tries the same thing on, he gets charged with god knows what and treated like a pariah.
I thought women believed they were equal to men.
That being true then we must reject these current egregious and unjust laws grossly dis-favouring and stacked against the men.

Is this guy for real? The MAGGOTS are taking over. ALTRAV supports Rolf Harris as being the victim, the grub is just out of jail after serving time for 12 counts of indecent assault against four young girls, one when she was 9 years old. Another six women gave supporting evidence that Harris had abused them as children in Australia, New Zealand and Malta between 1969 and 1991.
ALTRAV you sympathise with this guy! Who is the sicko?

Paul, don't try your perverted version of virtue signalling, it doesn't work on me.
I sympathise with anyone who is convicted of anything without a fair and equitable hearing or trial.
Your're the SICKO if you are prepared to take the word of some maggots who a whole lifetime later decide to ruin a persons life, and for what?
Stupid pride or principal?
I sympathise with these guys because they have been convicted well before they got to court.
And where-as you are a childish moron who cannot see what is obvious to everyone else, that these maggots all acted obsequiously towards these men who they obsessed over, for obvious reasons.
When we begin taking the word of one person over another and then convict on that basis, we are finished as a rational race.
There is no justification, or foundation from which to justify the conviction of any person based only on the say so of the accuser.
And if you can't see that, you are worse than the maggots you claim to champion.
You don't get why you are not taken seriously, well let me enlighten you with one simple question.
Were YOU there to confirm and state under oath, to have witnessed these accusations made against these men?

Paul, you only posted half the story: "Victoria's Attorney-General, Jill Hennessy, has taken the extraordinary step of writing to the Governor General David Hurley asking that the Council of the Order of Australia consider cancelling the Order of Australia awarded to Bettina Arndt in the Australia Day honours."

The fact is because Bettina has expressed that she believes Pell has been unjustly framed, Ms Batty and those that believe Pell guilty have gone to Jill Hennessy to have Bettina's honour stripped. Note who is behind the action; Ms Batty has worked against domestic violence for three years telling her story, and got "Australian Of The Year Honours". She has now walked away from supporting the charity she founded.

On the other hand Bettina has worked all her career in an attempt to develop better relationships between men and women. She has not walked away from her campaign.

We live in a society where boys are taught to be aggressive, it is a nature of the sport and games they play. If you want to get what you want, "Fight for it". This is not appropriate in relationships of passion, which is the way movies/ Weinstein Hollywood portrays sex. That is why rape and violence are carried out by persons who play aggressive sports. Education alone is not enough to curb this behaviour, they have a few drinks and their selfish nature takes over.

However, for many females emotion is different and they can be more scheming, spiteful and jealous. It is from these we have injustices done against men, that leave men being abused.