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Wonderful Wonderful NBN.

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Come off it SR, Rudd had a plan, you've got to be joking.

The idiot never got anything past the original thought bubble.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:58:05 AM
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"Did KRudd ever get anything right?"

Well he did get rid of Gillard.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 4 January 2020 12:31:09 PM
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Was the FTTP plan devised in the Rudd era? ISTR it was announced by Gillard.

Either way, it was not perfect, but it was a good investment in the future. There were technical problems and cost overruns, and NBNCo sensibly decided to address these before ramping up the rollout.

Then the Abbott government got in, and promised their "multi technology mix" plan which they said would get it connected faster and cheaper. Their plan was mostly "fibre to the node" and it was so stupid that literally everyone who supported it was either a complete idiot or ignorant of the facts. They based the case for it on an analysis that used a discount rate of 7% at a time when the RBA were willing to lend to commercial banks at 3% IIRC.

Even the one theoretically good part of Abbott's plan: the use of existing HFC infrastructure, was a disaster because they paid way over the odds for it considering the poor condition it was in.

So now we're stuck with a mostly third rate NBN that cost more (and took longer) to implement than the first rate NBN that was originally proposed.
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 4 January 2020 12:48:57 PM
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I think we should all take a moment out and have a minute's silence for Hasbeen's NBN connection.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 5 January 2020 5:58:55 AM
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Over the past few years the amount of mobile data on my service has increased ten fold and become faster, whilst the cost has not changed. Meanwhile the cost of the NBN has not changed or perhaps increased a bit. The same exodus would happen to the electricity grid were the cost of battery storage to fall by 80%. Had KRs plan been stuck too it would have cost far more, an NBN service would have cost more, and the exodus would have been more rapid.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 5 January 2020 7:11:57 AM
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I could not care less which idiot or political party did/said what.
This whole NBN rubbish was another snow job ONLY designed as an excuse for some pollies to scam more money out of the system into their own back pockets.
They can't help themselves.
Every time there is a major infrastructure project in the wind you can bet your left jewel, there is a line of these pricks, lined up with their back pockets open.
They do not care about the outcome, they do not care about the bad press or personal vilification because the idea, execution and operation were a failure.
They know they only have a few short years to gouge/steal as much money as possible, then cut and run when they lose the election or their seat.
These are not NORMAL people, they are cold, and arrogant without souls or shame.
They are the epitome of those who would kill their grandmother to make a buck.
So let us not squabble over who spilled the milk, when the milk was sour in the first place.
I have recently finished a development of several houses, I was told that it was my responsibility to install NBN, and if I did not I could be fined several hundred thousand dollars.
I insisted that it was either the responsibility of the builder or the eventual new owner.
The part that really got me was that it was against the law not to install NBN.
I assume I got that wrong, but in defiance I am prepared to stand my ground risking the obvious fines, as I don't accept their premise.
My point is that, for the govt to justify the NBN, they need to make a profit, so that they and their mates make money out of it.
I am incensed at the strategy of making laws to FORCE us to buy/install NBN, whether we want to or not.
Now that's how you make money.
Force something down peoples throats, then legislate to force them to pay for it so they are guaranteed a return.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 5 January 2020 7:55:53 AM
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