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Global warming garbage.

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Mr O,

It is good that you believe in polite and rational discussion. Perhaps you could explain rationally and politely why a geoengineering experiment of sinking CO2 into native vegetation was conducted when the climate models were predicting that Australia would become more prone to bush fires?

Cheers
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 16 January 2020 8:36:21 AM
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Hi Mr O,

The Deniers are still trying to fight some kind of pathetic rear guard action on climate change, despite the overwhelming evidence that human activity contributes to the problem.

According to the World Meteorological Organisation 2019 was the worlds second hottest year since records began, 1.1 degree C above pre industrial levels and Australia's hottest year ever.

"Unfortunately, we expect to see much extreme weather throughout 2020 and the coming decades, fuelled by record levels of heat-trapping greenhouse gases in the atmosphere," said WMO Secretary-General Petteri Taalas.

This of course means nothing to the Deniers, and they would say; "Its business as usual, Let the bush burn!"
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 16 January 2020 4:07:45 PM
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Paul,

What ?! 1.1 degree C more than 200 years ago !? No, surely not !

Do you have any idea what temperatures bush fires can get up to ? Do you really think that 1.1 degree C would make much difference ?

Have there been changes to environmental laws, prohibiting clearing and burning off, etc., both at state (NP) level and local council level ? Yes ? No ?

Of course there is climate change, there always is, one way or another. Yes, there is more of it, due to industrialisation over the past 250 years. And there have always been regular droughts across Australia as well. Much of Australia is into its third year of drought - in SW Queensland, there seems to have been drought for around six years now.

Policies prohibiting clearing and cool-burns and vegetation removal and reduction, coupled with a drought, need only some ignition to develop into massive bush-fires. Droughts are more or less unavoidable. So is ignition. So if these bush-fires are different, then their causes have clearly been policy-driven, originating in the demands and ideologies of particular groups in Australian society.

Gosh, I wonder who they might be.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Thursday, 16 January 2020 4:36:46 PM
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Do you know anything about this global warming theory you support so extravagantly Paul?

The theory is that the poles will warm more extremely & faster than the rest of the planet. Do you also realise that weather is generated by the heat absorbed in the tropics trying to migrate to the cold poles, to create equilibrium. Thus any global warming by the theory will reduce the tendency for bad weather by reducing the potential caused by the difference between polar & tropical temperatures. Global warming will make weather kinder.

Of course some warmists elites ignore this fact, claiming warming will give worse storms, as this is better for frightening the kiddies. Mostly it is useful idiots who have no idea of the theory they are supporting who make such claims.

The same occurs with the warmists claiming that global warming will cause droughts & floods, probably simultaneously, to be more frightening.

I do find it amazing that so many otherwise reasonably sane people can absorb & believe, just so much contradictory garbage, for so long, without ever looking at it closely enough to see what utter horse droppings it is.

I don't really blame the believers for falling for the fraud originally, I & thousands, probably millions actually believed the garbage at first,
One because we had not looked at it, accepting it as face value &,
Two, it never occurred to us that our academics could tell such barefaced lies, & get away with it for so long.

Of course once looked at it even mildly critically the whole thing falls apart.

I guess politics are pretty powerful for some, but why the left are supporting the scam, that is making hundreds of their hated billionaires so much richer, I really don't understand.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 16 January 2020 5:47:18 PM
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Do not know is you have heard this theme song for us Climate Change deniers. No 1 in the USA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2SmHjtOprA&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1hyUE1ysts71F9Fio9SMC24uGGRW8altpu2vG0sFCbjvjWcm8IUGnlP6s
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 16 January 2020 6:08:32 PM
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Paul1405,

The catastrophic bushfires of 2019/20 have crushed the AGW denialist cause.

Problem for the AGW denialists is that they cannot come to terms with the fact that the burning of fossil fuels is the only probable cause of global warming that can be correlated with the rise in mean global temperature over the past 240 years.

The real debate is now about whether or not the Australian government should be protesting to the big greenhouse emitters China, US, EU, Japan, India and Russia about the dangerous levels of greenhouse gases they are producing. This will make or break the government come the next election.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 16 January 2020 6:18:26 PM
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