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Global warming garbage.

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Paqul,

I suspect that I was out on the streets marching against the war in Vietnam (not just against conscription either, against the WAR) when you were still crapping your nappies.

I think I'm just getting to understand some of the more psychotic amongst us who see the ONE Huge Factor as the only factor in AGM, and 'therefore' in explaining (don't worry about preventing or fighting) bush-fires. So when other more sane people raise the realities that there are very many factors to consider, all combining to produce droughts and then bushfires, all they can scream is 'denial'.

No, I don't think anybody here (except maybe ALTRAV) would deny that CO2 may well be contributing to global warming, and that it is produced by burning fossil fuels.

Of course, that's not good enough: we must undergo self-criticism, and swear on our knees that CO2 is overwhelmingly the prime cause of global warming, and that fossil fuels have increased its content in the atmosphere by 50 % in 200 years. Not to believe that 100% means we're witches, as Misopinionated screeched a month or so ago: "Exterminate !" Hmmm, reminds me of the struggles between the Stakhanovites vs Executioners in the old Soviet Union, Paul.

Meanwhile, changes in NP policy, to cut back on fuel-reduction programs (burning AND removal, Belly) have probably been the main cause of these dreadful fires. If sensible policies had been introduced and/or maintained, then many of those houses in dense bush would likely still be safe, i.e. the owners required to cut back dangerous trees and minimise undergrowth, etc.; cattle and sheep would have been allowed into national parks to eat off much of the undergrowth (hey, maybe goats should be driven into the most inaccessible areas of parks to clean them out ? Just saying).

Cause is not explanation. Explanation is not remedy. What we need are effective remedies against future bush-fires like these. But I'm sure your coffee-mates around Glebe would be full of ideas (i.e. about the One Great Cause), Paul :)

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 13 January 2020 11:28:19 AM
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Dear Josephus,

You write;

“Global warming caused by humans is garbage”

But then you post a link to a video from a bloke who says, yes ‘humans do cause global warming’.

Why do you constantly do these mind-blowingly stupid things which make you look like an absolute fool?

Extraordinary!
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 13 January 2020 11:35:58 AM
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Hi Joe,

"I suspect that I was out on the streets marching against the war in Vietnam (not just against conscription either, against the WAR) when you were still crapping your nappies."

Since you raise the subject;

Your suspicions are INCORRECT, I was "eligible" for conscription for the Fascists Vietnam War at the next ballot. Failing to register meant automatic call up, I did not register. However the defeat of the sycophantic groveling lackey Coalition government of McMahon, by Whitlam put an end to that. I took part in many protests/marches against the WAR during my student days. I witnessed "pigs" with their badges removed, being assisted by Nazi Party members to manhandle young girls, and others into paddy wagons. I had a cousin who was a nasho', he was also one of the 521 young Australians killed in that pathetic war.

Joe, I take it you were too young for WWII/Korea and too old for Vietnam? Glad for your support back in the day.

Nah Issy,

Touched no nerve with me, nothing in what you say. Do you have any stats on how many Korean women were raped and murdered while you were serving in the 'Uncle Sam Sycophants' Regiment? Were you close to the action? Sorry I forgot, you were lobbing "chocolates" at kiddies at the time.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 13 January 2020 12:32:24 PM
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Plenty of stats of rapes in INdigeneous communities in no war time. Oh well Paul will push his Christophic, anti West hatred no matter what the facts. The Greens are experts at it.

No doubt it was gw that burned down the Broome school yesterday. Nothing to do with the 22 year old girl who lit the fire.
Posted by runner, Monday, 13 January 2020 1:11:49 PM
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Loudmouth, clarification;
I DO believe that burning fossil fuels causes CO2!
What I don't believe is we are responsible for all this HOO-HAA.
As I have said before, the little we emit is a joke compared to say China and India who are reportedly responsible for approx 75% of the world's CO2 emissions.
We on the other hand are responsible for approx 1% of 1.4% of the total emissions.
Also why I am so pissed at these bloody alarmists is that because they can't win their case on the truth, they highlight useless and even irrelevant data in a desperate attempt at trying to win a point.
Such as, highlighting the fact that we are the biggest polluters, PER CAPITA!
Really?
So 1% of 1.4%, means nothing in the bigger picture?
So yes I would rather say we are not responsible for the existence nor the severity of this GW farce, which I believe is not anywhere as serious as we are being told.
And my evidence and proof is being uncovered/discovered as we speak.
It should not be too much longer before someone in the alarmist camp calls for the mercy rule, or admits this whole thing was a wind-up.
Posted by ALTRAV, Monday, 13 January 2020 1:15:54 PM
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Surely one lesson that we all should have learnt from these bush-fires is that, sooner or later, the bush burns.

Yes, there is global warming involving the extra production of CO2 and use of fossil fuels over the past 250 years.

Right. Having got that out of the way, back to bush-fires.

During droughts, and in accompanying dry thunder-storms, such as we've had recently, and probably happen every week across the far north, there are thousands of lightning strikes. Tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands. A lightning strike often hits the ground. It will ignite whatever fuel is present.

So sooner or later, whether we allow fuel to build up or not, areas of bush will get struck by lightning. The bush will burn. If there is very little fuel, the cute, furry little animals will have time to get out of the way, a bit ruffled and disgruntled but alive. If there hasn't been a fire or clean-out burn for many years, the cute, furry little animals will be barbecued.

You choose :)

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 13 January 2020 4:10:05 PM
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