Aiden, it's your kind of convoluted thinking that has been at the fore of these stupid, insipid and ultimately, dangerous laws and decisions.
Yours is not the type of mindset that should be debating/discussing issues such as this.
It is your type of thinking that got us here in the first place.
You cannot be so twisted as to not apportion the blame to those who are at fault, (and yes, if that means the children, and ultimately, the parents, so be it) on those completely detached from fault or blame.
Let me educate you and give you one of life's lessons.
A road going vehicle is designed to be on the road.
An off-road vehicle is designed to go off-road.
A pedestrian or a cyclist, is NOT designed to go on the road.
So if a person wishing to set foot on a road, which is supporting vehicles doing what they are designed to do, then the onus is on the pedestrian to be aware of his surroundings, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND!
Pedestrians on any road is as serious an infringement as vehicles on pathways or pedestrian walkways.
Also the case for cyclists, they should also be on pathways or backstreets, not on major arteries.
Just because some annoying minorities make nuisances of themselves and even have friends in high places, does not mean inconveniencing the majority of the population to succumb to the selfishness and arrogance of a very stupid and self indulgent minority.

Paul1405,

You are so right in your description of the usual suspects.

Only one question: What planet do you think they are from?

Pedestrians have to cross roads. But, cyclists travelling on roads with motor vehicles are risking death everytime they pedal along so-called lanes separated from cars and huge trucks by a painted line. There is no other suitable description for anyone who rides a bike on a roadway but 'stupid'. If they want to risk their own lives, that's their business; but causing inconvenience and stress to motorists is a huge liberty. In SA, cyclists are now allowed to ride on footpaths,where they are a menace to pedestrians. Bikes should be collected for scrap. If you don't drive, take public transport, taxis - or walk. Mobility scooters should be governed to 4 kph or whatever walking speed is. They are also a menace to pedestrians.

Hey Bazz
My 'Stuff it' list was quickly thought out and off the top of my head.
In hindsight I too thought I was wrong on the 'Stuff electric cars' issue.
After already posting the comment I thought it seemed like the odd one out.

I'm not necessarily opposed to better ideas if they have a basis of merit.
- And obviously if we can power our cars from energy derived from the sun;
Then it makes a lot more sense to do that than burn millions of barrels of oil a day.

I also thought I should've added 'Trangender toilets', 'No-go Zones' and 'Global Governance' to the list.

Sometimes I feel like its a bit of a battle to clarify everything against this whole pc narrative.
For example, when I said 'Stuff multiculturalism', that shouldn't necessarily equate to 'I hate foreigners'.
It's this whole top down politics that's conditioned you to think this way.
By top-down politics, I'm alluding to the way that domestic policies are now dictated by international policies
Instead of the citizens of each nation deciding their own policies, and their representatives representing their interests in the international policy arena.
Now the international policies decide the narrative, and politicians just dance to the tune, and sell it to their citizens

Your probably conditioned to think I must be racist by the 'Stuff multiculturalism' statement, but in truth I don't hate foreigners.
I support them having their culture (In their own countries) in exactly the same way I support Australians having our own culture
What I hate is the narrative that says 'international politics' dictates 'national politics'
That immigrants are the majority voice and existing citizens are all racist if they dare complain about anything at all...

And what I hate is the 'narrative' behind all of these issues,
That if anyone doesn't follow the narrative, their opinions are dismissed and excluded as not having any basis of merit.

It felt good to write and share that list.
Like washing all this pc crap off myself and feeling clean and well grounded again.

ttbn,

Have you got a governor on your mobility scooter?

ttbn, I differ slightly from your take.
I don't wish to disagree with you but, my position is that if a pedestrian and a cyclist have a collision, the most that will happen is physical injury whether minor or worse.
BUT, if a car and a pedestrian or a cyclist collide, I guarantee you that the worst that will happen is death!
Now if I realise this obvious fact, why is it that those empowered with the responsibility of making decisions to keep us all safe, did not figure this obvious one out for themselves, that they needed someone on OLO to figure it out for them?
As much as I hate the fact that WE have to go out of OUR way (literally) to accommodate something which is CLEARLY WRONG to begin with, only adds to our angst.
And I wish everyone would stop flapping on about public transport.
I for one hate, loath, generally wish it dead.
The so called public transport, never goes where YOU want to go, and it never goes WHEN you want to go.
So if you have nothing to do all day, and you don't want to go, when you need to go, I would suggest public transport, otherwise, do as my wife and I do, when we're bored, we get an all-day pass and ride the various "rides" available, road, rail and water, for a day out, and a meal along the way.
Now THAT's what public transport is good for, a leisurely day out and about.
So those of you too brainwashed to know the difference, you're most welcome to keep plebbing along with PT, whilst the rest of us will keep using our more comfortable and extremely versatile and accessible, cars, which are available instantly, at your doorstep, and will take you comfortably to your exact destination, not somewhere near it.