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They are after our cars.

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Stuff climate change: Hmmm I think it has run its race
Stuff the gay agenda: Another trendy waffle
Stuff immigrant quotas: Emigrant quotas needed.
Stuff international treaties; must have some,electromagnetic spectrum
Stuff plant based diets and soy drinks; Use Soy milk to keep Cholesterol down.
Stuff feminism: Has become exagerated
Stuff university graduates: My experience totally useless
Stuff sellout politicians: Vote them out
Stuff white guilt: Don't have any
Stuff multiculturalism; Boo
Stuff globalism: Had its day
Stuff carbon reduction: Ha Ha Ha, how to close volcanoes ?
Stuff political correctness: Exercise of fools
Stuff religious discrimination: Sad really
Stuff the UN: Been taken over now UIN
Stuff unelected beaurecrats: Like death & taxes
Stuff diversity quotas: Are discriminatory
Stuff censorship : Tool of the worried
Stuff electric cars; Give me the money I'll have one tomorrow
Stuff toxic masculinity: Not enough to go around, should be rationed
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 30 December 2019 10:54:57 PM
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The good old blood and guts brigade are beside themselves. They are STUFFING everything insight, except the Xmas Turkey! I can just imagine a gathering of these wise old geriatrics on the verandah of the 'Shady Rest Retirement Village'.

Someone would say "I want to stuff Climate Change!", another "I want to stuff the UN!", then another "I want to stuff multiculturalism!" and finally Old Fart Fred..."I want to stuff GAYS"...The stares of amazement at Fred from the gathered throng of old farts.... One old fart to another; "I always had my doubts about that Old Fart Fred!"
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 7:30:49 AM
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30 kph somehow means 40 kph if people would do what the speed limit says. I say they have the 30 kph limit right. People can not understand what 40 kph limit at school times are some how taken to mean 50 kph.
Posted by Riely, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 7:48:08 AM
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Riely, so it seems you too believe that a child/person cannot be killed by a vehicle moving at 30kmh.
This is just another fruitless attempt at band-aid politics, which is;
As long as we are seen to be doing 'something', we are doing good.
Rubbish, and why?
Because instead of making the hard decisions, the correct decisions, the un-popular decisions, let's take the EASY way out, and make it appear we are being proactive and fixing problems.
Any law or action which diminishes the responsibility, or shifts the responsibility, from the offender to the offended, is simply a gutless way to shift blame/responsibility.
I totally reject the notion that I should 'be responsible for another persons ignorance or shortcomings.
What is clearly a fools idea of a good idea, is that instead of educating your children to be better, more aware and responsible people, NO let's shift any blame or fault onto completely innocent and unaware strangers.
By making these pathetically unrealistic and unjust laws, they are in and of themselves killing children.
Unless and until, even cars and cyclists, are separated, no end of speed limits will stop deaths/injuries.
The key word here is 'speed', not 'high speed', but any form of motion and therefore collision between human and machine will result in, injury, sometimes death.
Children running across the road from between parked cars, is just one of many things they should be educated about.
There are too many more to mention here.
NO!
As cruel as it sounds, if it's good enough for your child to die from a mis-adventure whilst on holidays, it is equally reasonable that without appropriate supervision or education, we can expect deaths and injuries from the collision between a child and a vehicle doing even 30kmh.
So I tell those of you who agree with this stupid 30kmh proposal, stop shifting the fault/blame away from the guilty and onto the innocent.
It is not the fault of a driver if a child ignorantly puts him in an untenable situation, and in so doing cause the innocent to be vilified and aggrieved
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 8:54:34 AM
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Hasbeen,

I agree that there are moves to stop the plebs from owning cars.

However, the arrogant elites haven't reckoned with China which, if it isn't already, will soon be the world's leading motor vehicle manufacturer, flogging cars priced well below those built in the West. China will have the West so far over the barrel that they will not be able to stop imports of Chinese cars, and they will have to allow their citizens to buy them.

All this UN waffle is just so much bullshite. The mighty dollar - and China - call the tune
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 9:39:42 AM
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ALTRAV,
For decades it was thought that having well defined roads, with vehicles on them and pedestrians off them, was the best way to improve road safety. But that sort of environment results in drivers going faster yet paying less attention to their surroundings. And pedestrians still needed to cross the roads.

It was eventually realised that in some situations, a more effective way of improving road safety was to design the roads to make motorists pay more attention to their surroundings.

It's not about assigning blame; it's about making our roads safer. And it's not about what happens when a collision occurs at the speed limit; it's about getting vehicles to be able to stop quickly enough to avoid collisions (or at the very least, to minimise their effects).
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 10:08:09 AM
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