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They are after our cars.

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As I said, any comments or opinions you have are moot.
I will never-the-less correct you at every turn.
I am an expert because my life and career has been about designing, building and the dynamics of ALL forms of vehicles, including cars, and with focus, emphasis, specialising in CARS.
To explain it at your level of intellect; my life has been about auto design/engineering.
I come under the banner of industrial designer, specialising in cars.
In other words, I take something from the non-dimensional, (think up ideas), then create it into a three dimensional structure, (create the proto-type), then test and develop it. Then on through to production, if that is the clients wishes.
So that you know, my life has been all about cars and driving, and I am an expert because my knowledge came naturally, experienced, I did not do something I knew nothing about and everything I now know about it, I had to learn.
The ignoramus here is you, who, like all academics think you know what your talking about, when you knew absolutely nothing only a few years before going to uni, and now you claim expertise.
Remember the word expert derives from the word experience.
Where is your experience?
Let this expert enlighten you further.
I am part of a very exclusive club, that at 69 years of age can brag about NEVER having had, what is commonly called, an ACCIDENT!
I don't know your age, but can you say that?
I have too much respect for the motor car, to see IT harmed in ANY way.
So I drive for concern of the car, not the public.
If people are too stupid or high on something or not focusing on their immediate environment, guess what, in nature they would be dead.
So I don't care what stupid rubbish YOU think you've learned from uni, it is worthless, you can't save fools from themselves.
It is a fact of life and nature, people must die, yes MUST, because they are mere mortals and subject to the foibles of their own shortcomings and lackings.
Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 3 January 2020 11:31:52 AM
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my life has been about auto design/engineering.
ALTRAV,
I have always wondered why you people have never designed governors for cars so as to not allow the driver to exceed the recommended speed limits ?
Why aren't cars designed with the foresight that morons will be driving them ?
Perhaps it can be done very soon because it's desperately needed for the safety of all !
Posted by individual, Friday, 3 January 2020 12:02:11 PM
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Indy, good point and a valid question at that.
I can answer that because it came up as a think tank question decades ago and it appeared again every now and then.
The reason we cannot have governors on our engines is because we must not remove the flexibility and control of the vehicle from the driver.
For example, I'm sure you have at some time over the years found yourself in a situation where the car is constrained by the load it is carrying or towing, so that it inhibits it's performance or in lay terms, renders the car unable to reach it's full speed potential.
This has been the cause of too many deaths and incidents where one begins to pass a vehicle, mostly articulated ones, (semi trailers)
and realise all too late that it will not go fast enough to pass this vehicle in front, before encountering on-coming traffic.
Of course, you back off the throttle and slip back in behind the vehicle you were attempting to pass.
Unfortunately sometimes it does not happen quick enough, and so we end up with injuries and or fatalities.
A governor would only exacerbate this problem, as it will also stop you from accelerating further and passing thereby getting past quicker, even if it meant (which it does, more often than not) breaking the speed limit.
Cruise control is not a governor, it is a "hold" at a set speed device, which the driver can dis-engage several ways, in an instant if he feels the need.
He is still in control.
Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 3 January 2020 1:05:14 PM
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See ,
car advice.com.au

"You might not have heard, but the Europeans have recently started the process of introducing built-in, mandatory speed limiters in all new cars sold by 2022. That’s a mere three years away, and if it becomes law (extremely likely), there will be no doubt that Australia will follow suit without a moment’s hesitation."

Governors/speed limiters have been and are fitted to motor vehicles since the first years of motor vehicles.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 3 January 2020 1:38:14 PM
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/744080/mandatory-speed-limiters-fitted-to-new-cars-will-be-the-best-thing-that-happens-to-car-enthusiasts/
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 3 January 2020 1:50:21 PM
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ALTRAV,
Seriously? You're suggesting safety objectives should be ignored just because nature is dangerous? Or that if people are killed it doesn't matter because they'd die eventually anyway?

While you can't save every fool from themselves, you can (and should) reduce the number impacted.

One of the features of being human is that length and quality of life matter. Another is that our greater communication ability means we don't have to rely on our own experience to learn; we can also learn from the experience of others.

I don't regard myself as an expert in traffic engineering or road design, but unlike you I do know a fair bit about it. And the proportion of what I know that comes from my own driving experiences is quite small.

As for whether I've had an accident, that depends what you mean. I've never been in a collision with another vehicle (though I've had a few misses) but back when I was on P plates I once damaged the car I was driving by snagging the bumper and headlight on a protruding pipe when reversing out of a parking space under a building.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 3 January 2020 3:42:31 PM
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