I just heard some more talk on ABC radio that they're again looking for scape goats about the Murray River fiasco.
Could someone in the know please inform us where most of the water from the Murray system goes ?

Look at the flows- my understanding is most of the water is taken out in VIC and NSW leaving the SA heads to require dredging.

Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 6:42:46 AM- Statement 1-

"...I hate the very left.
See they, like communism, murdered Socialism.
Well, the inability to get people to achieve much under that system helped.

Answer 1 by Canem Malum-

The thing is Belly- if it looks like a rose, smells like a rose, feels like a rose- it's probably a rose- same with communism. But you have to do a lot of reading to understand what communism is.

Like an elephant in the dark- if you feel it's leg it feels cylindrical- if you feel it's ear it feels flat- if you feel it's fail it feels like a rope- each piece gives you a little bit of data to try to build up a full picture. This is the same with communism and other ideologies- most ideologies are constructed by philosophies and there are often subtle differences between viewpoints that can end up being critical to understanding.

Over time with painful tedious effort you start to build up a partial picture or model. Once you have a basic model it becomes easier to quickly sum up political situations- sometimes a concept comes along that shakes up your model- but mostly with thought and time you are able to incorporate the new concepts into your model framework.

Once you understand the model concept you start to understand that others can have very different maps of the world- sometimes by talking with them you can start to see that their world has a certain amount of internal consistency- but often you'll find that it is not reconcilable with your own- so now you have two models- inconsistent with each other. At some point you need to make a decision in the real world one way or the other- of course if you are a responsible person you can not cede your judgement to someone else. There is always the possibility you will be wrong in your model- but you need to trust your own judgement.

There are those that will tell you that your lack of expertise or understanding is reason for not relying on your own judgement- yes your judgement may be falible- everyones is even experts- but you still need to take responsibility for your own decisions.

The links below documents one woman's journey through her process of discovery...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Pill

Basically an understanding of politics requires an understanding of the "players" the "philosophy" and "chronology". Everything is related to everything else- sometimes there is an inverse relationship sometimes a proportional one- but it's even more complicated than this- but we can leave it there for now.

My understanding is Socialism was founded by Communists. Maybe you will come to a different conclusion.

Statement 2 by Belly-

Fake News Fake fear generating has handed the Fake very right too many governments, the biggest conspiracy is that not anything else

Answer 2 by Canem Malum-

Fake News- well this is a term that appears to have been invented by "the so called left" to stop people reading about the opposing view. Do you really think news from "the left is all pure and white as snow".

Politics is a dirty game- in the end it's all about power on all sides- all about information warfare about perception, distortion, etc. History has shown it is possible to trick and trap large parts of the population with logical devices. You want to create a perception of white while presenting the opposition as black- red herring- it's all about power. In politics one is forced to negotiate with allies but who are the right allies- ultimately one might assume that the population are the most valid- but it's complicated.

Edward Bernays (Sigmund Freud's cousin) wrote the book on Propaganda and was one of the most powerful people of the twentieth century. The communists also had a very well refined propaganda machine. All communication is linked to the speakers biases so in a sense all communication has an element of "Fake News". This is all part of the eternal information war that has extended throughout history. You can't read everything so you need to create some "credibility filters" to manage the flow- just take care that you are not using a filter that has it's own bias. It's much less dangerous to read bias news than to accept a filter that has bias- if you use a biased filter everything you read will be biased.

So the challenge is to balance "information and dis-information" so that you can make decisions that are in the best enlightened interest of yourself. In order for "democracy" for example (representive self governance) to work requires an informed population. One way to help yourself filter the dis-information is by relying on credible sources of information- such as national statistics bodies- news agencies with a reputation for good standards- but what happens if the information well is poisoned- you need to find new wells. In history at times underground news sources have been the only sources of reality. One way to ensure that the well is safe is by reading their standards of publication- and perhaps a sample of articles for bias. You should periodically go outside your comfort zone to test your model. Some ideas sound right but there are traps.

Some wells are more toxic than others. Some power is more valid than others- but it's complicated.

The best lies contain some truth

If someone tells me not to read something- that's the first thing I'll do.