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Climate Emergency

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Awwww, diddums got found out quoting quacks! Paawwww diddums.
Quack.
Posted by Max Green, Friday, 29 November 2019 1:58:43 PM
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Imagine you're having a long conversation with a climate denier about the MWP and right from the start you admit there WAS such a thing as the MWP and the denier smugly says everything HE knows about the MWP says it disproves today's climate science but the denier is too dense to actually bother finding the actual quotes and paragraphs from the actual studies that SHOW how the MWP disproves today's understanding of climate science!

Once again... local not global, various not uniform.

FROM THE IPCC
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A number of studies that have attempted to produce very large spatial-scale reconstructions have come to the same conclusion: that medieval warmth was heterogeneous in terms of its precise timing and regional expression (Crowley and Lowery, 2000; Folland et al., 2001; Esper et al., 2002; Bradley et al., 2003a; Jones and Mann, 2004; D’Arrigo et al., 2006).

The uncertainty associated with present palaeoclimate estimates of NH mean temperatures is significant, especially for the period prior to 1600 when data are scarce (Mann et al., 1999; Briffa and Osborn, 2002; Cook et al., 2004a). However, Figure 6.10 shows that the warmest period prior to the 20th century very likely occurred between 950 and 1100, but temperatures were probably between 0.1°C and 0.2°C below the 1961 to 1990 mean and significantly below the level shown by instrumental data after 1980.
http://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/05/ar4_wg1_full_report-1.pdf
Posted by Max Green, Friday, 29 November 2019 3:05:37 PM
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This days news papers [maybe not the Fox factory stuff] mentions both us and the once United States are deep in a fight with the EU
Over free trade agreements until we get better climate change action
Just think, if it continues trade not climate, may push us to take action
Posted by Belly, Friday, 29 November 2019 3:29:08 PM
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Ha ha ha, MHAZE this is my impression of you right now!

MHAZE: "Dang, they've cottoned on to me quoting quacks! What can I do? Oh I know — grab the ever handy Denialist 101 toolkit. Now, where's the index... the chapter index... oh yeah, at the front. "What to do when you've been caught exaggerating a claim?" Page 20... Ahah! Of course! D&D, DISTRACT AND DIVERT!

Ah, got it. Now to the RCPS!
"Max knows nothing about the various RCP's but nevertheless professes utter faith in the models..."

Dear, deluded MHAZE.

Where is your QUOTE proving the MWP was actually warmer than today and is somehow in conflict with today's climate science? Just quoting a name isn't good enough. Remember, your Lordship, that you're the one claiming to be a genius here. How about if your worshipfulness deigns to demonstrate some of that genius and actually quote the friggin chapter and verse that shows the MWP to be warmer than today? From an actual peer-reviewed journal? Thanks in advance your Lordshipfulness!
Posted by Max Green, Friday, 29 November 2019 5:08:06 PM
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Max,

During the Medieval Warming Period (MWP), Vikings are supposed to have colonised southern Greenland, even planting crops there for a short time. Hence 'Greenland', unless Vikings were notable for irony.

A team of archaeologists recently tried to excavate a graveyard there, but hit permafrost only a foot or so down. They might have to wait a while until the ground thaws out.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 29 November 2019 5:23:27 PM
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Loudmouth 3 hang up the phone, science [an unwanted thing here] claims the start of the industrial revolution, mid 17OO.RDS STARTED climate change
That is man made as we poured filth in to the air
Vikings by that time had nearly ended their invading other countrys
Posted by Belly, Friday, 29 November 2019 5:40:47 PM
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