Mr O, Lets find the culprit that is lighting the fires, and we will know who to blame. Looking at your contribution to Climate it is obvious you like the blame game. That is why you want to destroy Capitalism.

SR,

1. The link I was referring to wasn't the NASA video but this one (https//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Disappearing_Ice.webm). I don't really care. I just pointed it out because I thought you might like to fix it if you thought it was material. I'm sure you understand what I was talking about but as per usual try to obfuscate to avoid admitting an error, no matter how minor. I used to find your practice of playing to fool to avoid admitting error to be disturbing but now its just funny and sad.

2. Re the sea ice extent. I was using 2018 data not preliminary 2019 data. Prelim data is subject to change and often significant change.

3. My original point was that the predictions made by 'scientists' that the Arctic would be ice free by 2013 was wrong. Try as you might, that remains a fact. Now it may be that, in SR-land, when someone says it'll happen in 2013 they mean 2023, 2033 or the 12th of never ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNNRGa3pKyw) but in adult-world it means 2013. The prediction was ubiquitous and wrong which was my point. The current crop of predictions will suffer the same fate and the same bunch of true-believers will do their best to forget the error.

4. Whatever the momentary sea ice extent, the fact is, if its going to become ice free it needs to be declining in extent year on year on average.Its not. Its no closer to being ice free now than it was a decade ago. Its simply a failed prediction. But then again it wasn't a prediction - it was just more propaganda in the great scare campaign.

So Belly, I'm guessing you didn't watch the link I posted. Good idea.

Just for clarification the video shows:

1. The new report isn't new. It contains zero new data.

2. It wasn't put together by 11000 scientists but by one guy who then invited others to 'like' it. 11000 did so.

3. The vast majority of the 11000 aren't scientists at all but just climate alarmists. Belly, you could have signed it.

The International Disaster Database reports that the risk of danger from weather has fallen by 99% over the past century. We are getting fewer cyclones, and the planet is getting greener.

Everything about this "11,000 scientists" story was absolute rubbish. The alarmist fiction was put on the internet for any idiot to sign, which is what idiots did.

But, certain posters will continue making fools of yourselves, with their pathetic references to every nutbag site they can find. It's unlikely that they will ever emerge from their caves into the light

NASA, CSIRO, Smithsonian, and 11,000 scientists,
climate scientists, from over 153 different countries
all live in caves?

Wow! Who says we can't learn anything on this forum.
The previous thing we learned from this poster was that
"Leftists" lived under rocks.

Seems to be a bit of a pattern in thinking - here.
Perhaps there should be a need for this person to get
out from under and into the sun light - for some
enlightenment?

Just a thought.

'I wonder how ScuMo is going to explain his lack of interest in climate change in the wake of the firestorms this week. I know! he can blame Labor. What a brilliant idea.'

hopefully by calling out idiotic Greens who oppose back burning and then have the audacity to use people's misfortune to push their gw religion.