Dear Josephus,

I didn't know Townsville was in southern Qld. Thanks for correcting me. You are a wise man; it is no wonder as to why they call you Josephus.

Once people had a degree of faith in institutions like the CSIRO. Since the total corruption has been revealed in the deep south in the US more and more have lost any confidence in bureaucracy. Bom seem to think its fine to fiddle with data and ensure it fits their narrative. The anti coal bigots have shown themselves to be desperate and dishonest while raking in billions of tax payer money in questionable renewable scams.

OK let us continue to ignore the report that started this thread
Too everyone including the UN who warns us the climate is changing
Even us, yes almost every poster in the recent thread Climate, agreed it is changing
Doubt anyone elected Mayor in Glen Innes is green, BUT yes some things are weird
ABC radio interviewed the Taree Mayor [good bloke but] see he lives northwest of our two fires, and is in no danger, but they thought he was
Now read the thread, do please, take not of the charges laid against believers, then look for the basic evidence to support those claims, try to find some
Tell me again man has no impact on the environment zero on climate, and very little needs changing
I need the grin

SR,

Thanks for helping make my point. The true believers just ignore and/or minimise the past predictions and go week-kneed at the new predictions.

Now according to SR, the predictions are on track because the Arctic will be ice free at some time. But the predictions were more specific than that. They were predicting 2013-14 or before 2020. And not a few but the ubiquitous "scientists". eg from the BBC in 2007 "Scientists in the US have presented one of the most dramatic forecasts yet for the disappearance of Arctic sea ice.
Their latest modelling studies indicate northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers within just 5-6 years."

And that nice Mr Gore won a Nobel (and made a sh!tload o money) by predicting 2013.

But, as I stated, when the prediction fails, the clueless just move onto the next prediction.

And the Arctic isn't even moving in the right direction for your claims to be true. While the trend-line (you remember trend-lines, I taught you about them a few years back) for 1979-2006 was for progressively less ice, the trend-line for 2007 to 2018 has been progressively more ice. So your assertion (ie a claim without basis) that "the fact that the trajectory is very much headed in that direction." is utterly wrong.

Still as George Costanza explained... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

Oh, by the way, your link was rubbish.

So still we see the true-believers trying hard to forget all the past false-predictions and fervently believing the current false predictions. And so it goes.

So Belly, would you like to explain to me why you now so strongly believe the current set of predictions when so many of the previous similar predictions were shown to be wrong. I can't help but notice that you are assiduously avoiding that problem.

Yes the climate is changing. Always has been...always will. Yes its a little hotter now than 100 years ago.

But we had bushfires 100 years ago. We had drought 100 yrs ago. And floods. and cyclones/hurricanes. and rising seas. and new record high temperatures and new record low temperatures.

But even after all that, even if these predictions of impending doom are even plausible, there remains no evidence that anything we (Australia) do will make the slightest difference to the outcome.

Belly it never occurred to me to believe you were silly enough to actually take seriously anything coming out of the UN, but in your last post you appear to be trying to force me to such a belief.

I don't see how anyone could believe anything that Mr O stated his belief in. Such a ratbag should convince anyone to doubt anything he believes.

A quick thought about our fire history would be enough to convince any rational human being with half a brain that nothing has changed.

Remember ash Wednesday, & it's occurrence long before any increase in CO2 occurred.