We (humankind) have been presented with predictions of gloom as far back as we know. The Bible would be half its size if all the 'prophets' were excised. Ever since Malthus we've been told that population is a problem. We are always running out of food to feed the growing masses. We are using up resources. And yet for 200 years these population fetishists have been utterly, utterly wrong. Not just a little wrong - utterly wrong. And yet, here we are presented with the latest population alarm, and the usual crowd fall into line, forgetting the previous false predictions and treating this one as infallible.

Remember when we were told that cities like New York would be partially or fully inundated by now?

Remember when we were told Pacific Islands would go under by now?

Remember when we were told the Arctic would be ice free in summer by now?

There'd be 50 million climate refugees by now?
We'd run out of oil by now?
There'd by famine throughout the world by now?
That snow would be so rare, kids wouldn't recognise it.
That our ski industry would cease to exist because of lack of snow.
That the dams wouldn't fill.
That Perth would be a ghost-town.

And so much more.

All fervently believed at the time by the same types of people (and often the same people) who now believe this latest 'we're-all-gunna-die' malarkey.

All fervently believed with the attendant screams to 'do sumfing'.

AND ALL WRONG.

But that's the beauty of these things. These people can make all the outlandish predictions they like in the sure and certain knowledge that not only will they not be called out on it when it fails to happen, but that their followers will actively not remember the false claims.

Me? well I can't wait to see what we're all gunna die of next year. Because the one prediction that's assured to be true, is that, when these ones don't pan-out, others will take their place.

The report had much more in it, tell me are some living a substandard life
Is the climate changing? reason [left out]
Are the never seen before fires raging on the NSW coast drought or climate related
Josephus sorry old mate putting you in the never going to hear basket
Are humans polluting this world, do we need to change that
Yes the climate is changing yes the ice is melting at record levels
And yes SOME will refuse to see it
See Murdocks propaganda factory lost over 300 million dollars, needed that! good news on a bleak day
Visit NSW RBF fires near me, pull up NSW north coast
Our main highway is closed in both directions, fire rages homes burn but the climate is ok?

Belly,

The climate changes. Australia unfortunately has cooler than average sea surface temperatures in the areas from which evaporation forms much of our rainfall. Meanwhile rainfall is heavier in other areas of the globe. Why are the sea surface temperatures cooler? How anomalous are the current conditions compared with past decades and centuries?

'runner,

Ah runner, your rejection of The Story
of Noah, The Ark, and The Flood in
Genesis 6-9 indicates that you do accept
scientific evidence instead.

Gotcha!'

you certainly did Foxy! I fell in my own trap.

btw My wife had an uncle (mother's brother who recently passed on) who grew up very poor by aussie standards. He ended up head of the Agriculture Dept. in Victoria for a number of years. The rest of the family thought he was all a bit woke but were quite proud of his achievements. Probably about 7 years ago I was speaking to him (only met him about 3 times). Usually we disagreed on most things. I nearly fell off my chair when he stated what rubbish the climate change narrative was. I never did find out what changed his mind.

Hi runner,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I'm not surprised though about people changing
their minds regarding climate change. It works
both ways. Many of our friends who were rather
dubious before are slowly starting to look at things
from a different perspective.

I read the report that appeared in the American
Institute of BioScience's journal, BioScience
and the recommendations made a lot of sense,
especially that so many climate scientists endorsed
it.

Anyway, I'm still reading as much as I can on the subject.
I, like I suspect so many other people, don't quite
understand things fully - so reading up helps.
(Anything to do with science - makes my eyes glaze over).

Here's a link that I found useful from the Smithsonian.
The world's largest museum and research center in
Washington DC. I had dealings with them when I was in
charge of Inter-Library Loans at the University Library
at USC (University of Southern California) in Los Angeles.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/scientists-around-world-declare-climate-emergency-180973462/

http://www.csiro.au/en/Research/OandA/Areas/Assessing-our-climate/State-of-the-Climate-2018/Australias-changing-climate
CSIRO no less wounder who conned them?
Well worth the read, and adds to our debate, only for those with open minds however