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Traditional customs under question after Wombat stoning

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Big Nana,

There has been persistent shortfalls in life expectancy
and health status of our Indigenous people due to
government inability to address equitable needs
and funding gaps in primary care. To secure adequate
funding for the long term in many areas.

As for land councils? You need to check
each state to see what's actually going on.
And what is and isn't being transferred to Aboriginal
communities.

You again display an unfortunate tendency to brush
aside any concern regarding our Indigenous people.
Which I find hard to understand.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 12 October 2019 4:01:45 PM
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Totally agree Joe, any trashy nonsense from the past is superfluous, useless nonsense. Does your website fall into that category? After all its full of the unsubstantiated nineteenth century reports of biased white men which can not be of interest to a forward thinking progressive such as yourself.

You could not be more correct Foxy.

Joe; Thank you for pointing out the typo, me using the word bowel instead of bowl, much appreciated.

BTW, what is the meaning of the word luntitude, as in " luntitude of organisations" not familiar with it, but there are lots of words in the English language I am not familiar with, luntitude could be one, I thought the word multitude might be of a better use.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 12 October 2019 4:58:39 PM
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Paul,

As usual, you completely misunderstand what I might have said: I have none of your interest in "any trashy nonsense from the past is superfluous, useless nonsense. "

I'm interested in two things: what people may have said in the past, in their own words; and in making it available to others for free, on my web-site:

www.firstsources.info ,

so that nobody else don't ever has to do that again. Of course, I may have fabricated something out of malice, and the person writing - the Protector or a missionary or government official - may give a completely distorted account, or lie outright. Or not.

Of course, everyone has their own biases. Perhaps even you :) . Nah !

If you want to find anything amiss in what I've typed up, go for it. Otherwise .....

Yes, of course, 'multitude', as in 'a multitude of Indigenous organisations' - five thousand across the country, is one figure I've heard. All with voices. Strangely, although most have web-sites, very few come up with original papers or suggestions or comments on policy. So although they do indeed have voices, very few seem to have the gumption to use them.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 12 October 2019 6:59:27 PM
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Foxy,
Your idealistic, Leftist drivel is not helpful at all. Like every society, the Australian indigenous too have people who perform & people who don't.
It really is now up to them to reject the likes of you interfering without actually having clue what is really needed.
Do-gooders cause harm & disunity !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 13 October 2019 2:07:10 AM
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Hi Joe,

I heard 10,000 myself, or was that 20,000, no matter. 5,000 could come from painstaking accounting of numbers by a learned gentleman, or it could come from a bar fly on his tenth schooner for the night down at your local, we'll never know.

When I put up it was a failure that no Aboriginal person had graduated from a university in 116 years, you came up (as usual) with all sorts of mitigating circumstances. One you didn't mention was the fact Europeans in general, and those Government Aboriginal Controllers, believed the best and only jobs Aboriginals were suited to were some kind of poorly paid menial servitude, labouring for the boys, domestics for the girls, not much "edumacation" needed there!

Joe, can you fill me in. Why did Aboriginal people need a European Controller, sorry Protector. They seemed to have done perfectly fine for at least 40,000 years without one. I know, they weren't doing perfectly fine, in the year 40,000 BC, so the forum experts will tell me, they were clubbing each other to death, and raping the women, but we can argue the toss later. In your opinion, what were the benefits for Aboriginal people of having a European Controller, going to Uni certainly wasn't one.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 13 October 2019 6:51:49 AM
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Paul,

As usual, a string of non sequiturs. Nobody much went to university in 1850, only the very elite. It was a class-based institution. The middle-classes couldn't get their foot in the door until much, much later, and the working-class much later still, closely followed (or accompanied) in time by Indigenous people, who had been overwhelmingly living in rural areas until well after the War, where there weren't any universities. When they came into the cities, their children started going to university. Indigenous participation is now possibly higher than for Australian-born working-class men.

Unjust it was, but that's how it was. Then. It isn't completely like that now, with 120,000 Indigenous people having been to university. And 55-60,000 graduates. 100,000 well before 2030, one in every four or five Indigenous adults, one in every three women, i.e. on a par with eastern European countries.

Sorry if they didn't stay down, so that you could shower your pity on their helpless state. But they didn't. So slag away.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 13 October 2019 8:19:42 AM
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