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Traditional customs under question after Wombat stoning

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Foxy,

"Firstly, the Constitution confers upon Parliament a special
power to racially discriminate."

Got any examples of when the Parliament did so?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 12 October 2019 2:48:16 PM
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Is Mise, if anyone replies that the NT intervention actually contradicted the Racial Discrimination Act I would like to point out, that despite the government agreeing that it did, it actually didn’t because all white people living in aboriginal communities at that time also came under the rules of the intervention.
They might not have been large in number but they did live in these places and were banned from bringing in alcohol, porn etc. And the very few white people living in communities on welfare had to go on the Basic Card.
I was very surprised when the government stated that it had suspended the Discrimination Act because they hadn’t really thought it through and remembered the white people out there.
And as been suggested by many, rather than specifically dedicated aboriginal voices in parliament, it’s easier and more democratic to just remove the offending section of the Constitution that allows for discrimination.
Posted by Big Nana, Saturday, 12 October 2019 2:57:27 PM
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A voice - only a voice.
Foxy,
Yes, the real Aborigines only ask that, the fake ones are just after money like all Leftist bureaudroids !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 12 October 2019 3:02:47 PM
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Aboriginal people already have many voices. Not just in parliament but also in self managed health systems, self managed legal systems, self managed resource centres, self managed land councils etc etc.
Posted by Big Nana, Saturday, 12 October 2019 3:24:18 PM
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Is Mise,

Historically - as you should know -
the Constitution has excluded Indigenous
Australians from our democracy.

Before 1967 Indigenous Australians were excluded from
being counted in the census for the purposes of voting.

The Constitution also empowered laws and policies that
denied Indigenous not only voting rights but
property rights, equal wages, and asserted unequal
protectionist controls. It's all available and
documented.

Had the principal of equality been extended justly to
Indigenous peoples in the first place, Australia would not
now be grappling with constitutional reform to ensure
Indigenous people receive a fairer go than they've had
in the past.

Indigenous people might not now be asking for a constitutional
voice in their affairs.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 12 October 2019 3:33:57 PM
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Foxy,

Do you read the posts of experts, people with very long and deep experience, like Big Nana ? Or do you mindlessly regurgitate what some authority, like Professor Google, has mindlessly churned out ? For god's sake, please stop trying to reverse the distant past and recognise what rights and opportunities for Indigenous people are available now, and have been for decades ?

Just by the way, there have been Indigenous tertiary graduates from teachers' colleges and nursing schools for much longer than from universities, just like for white working-class women - there have certainly been Indigenous teachers since the late forties and nurses from the early fifties, if not earlier. You know, people who have got on with life and not wallowed in memories of injustice as you would like them to do.

And I don't give a toss how that makes you feel, if that offends you in some tiny way. For god's sake, learn SOMETHING !

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 12 October 2019 3:54:07 PM
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