Foxy,
yes & so is the story of the CHARLES EATON.

Foxy,

Then it wouldn't be all that difficult for archaeological and forsnsic-science trams from universities to carry out thorough investigations of 'well-known' massacre sites ? Especially at sites where many, many people are reputed to have been killed ?

We know that it is very difficult to completely remove all signs of a body, let alone hundreds. To burn a body takes round a tonne of wood, so hundreds of people would mean hundreds of tonnes, so at least in hard country, entire areas would be cleared, all at the same time, so regrowth on trees would all be about the same age, and maybe (I don't know) their rings could be counted, to give a very rough idea of when the trees were stripped.

Let's apply a bit of science and truth to this discussion.

Joe

Dear Big Nana,

According to my research the 'frontier wars'were
carried out first by British soldiers then by
police and settlers - often acting together and
later by native police working under the command
of white officers in military style forces
supported by colonial governments.

Dear Joe,

Much research has been done on the Frontier Wars.
The University of Newcastle is just one place worth
contacting. There are maps of massacres - there's even
a list of massacres on Google. All you have to do is
be willing to look and read more than just Keith
Windschuttle and his team's work.

Foxy,

Yes, a 'list' of supposed massacres, but no investigations, as far as I can tell. None. Surely, if there were investigations of massacres of Aboriginal people, in the most likely or notorious sites, they would find something, if there was something there, and give some backing to that 'list' ?

It 'lists' sites in South Australia which, frankly, would be impossible, a couple in the north-east in the 1890s, for example. Another site 'listed' which was actually a massacre of Aboriginal people accused of marrying wrong, by other Aboriginal groups (Mt Eba). If that 'list' is unreliable in relation to South Australia, I wonder how much store can be put in it, especially since there haven't yet been any proper forensic investigations.

Perhaps somebody could put together a 'list' of Aboriginal massacres of non-Aboriginal people. Yes, that happened, and is far better documented than just a 'list'.

If massacres occurred, find evidence.

Joe

Hi Joe and Foxy,

Just a point on "traditional customs" I can't speak for Aboriginal customs, but on the score of the Maori custom of tattooing. The practice is not to be taken lightly, some certainly do, and is frowned upon if carried out for purely selfish reasons, such as self adornment. The person doing tattoos, like carving, has to firstly seek authority from kaumatua (elders) to do the work, they also need to be trained correctly in that art form. After a tattoo is done completely, which can take several sessions it should be blessed by an appropriate person.

The Son had a very nice one done a couple of years back, Mums first question was, who did it for you, where is he from, secondly what is its kaupapa (meaning). Then has it been manaakitanga (blessed), or who is going to do it. Before performing the work the artist should perform a karakia (prayer). Recently a nephew who has been in a bit of trouble lately, had a large tattoo done on his neck, very impressive, put it up on 'Facebook', Aunty seen it and she was straight on the phone with the appropriate questions, seems it passed Aunties sniff test, all is well.

I was once in NZ with the wife, and we stopped at a spot in a forests down south to pick some kind of bush. To take up north for a baby who had bad eczema. The wife knew this particular bush grew there. Before entering the forest she said a karakia, and explained that years back she had been given permission from a local kaumatua to gather in that forest, but under strict rules, like don't take more than you need.

Before entering the forest she said a karakia,
Paul1405,
it is the custom here too on Cape York. All those of us who know respect that.