Foxy wrote:"All I can politely suggest to you is to read up
on Richard Nixon."

Translation - when she said that people had denied that there was a chance of senior Republicans telling Nixon to go, I asked who these people were. Now she tells me to find out for myself ie she doesn't know of any such people and just hoped it was true. She now wants me to do her research for her.

Foxy I've read, and own, three books on the Nixon impeachment saga. I've never read anything like what you assert.

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Shadow Minister,

The 538 poll is all very interesting. But who, after Trump 2016, Brexit and the recent Liberal win, still believes polls?

People lie on polls - I've seen commentators advising their readers to lie so as to deny the opponents the truth. People say what they think the pollster wants to hear. Pollsters (sub?) consciously skew the sample.

Unless a poll shows a greater that 5% margin, I utterly discount it.

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Belly wrote :"but Trumps crime is having an extraordinary out of control ego and no real interest in the truth"

If that was an impeachable offence then every president since Washington would have been impeached.

But Belly's attitude is common. They don't care the how or the why they just want the 2016 election overturned. But don't dare say they are anti-democracy.

"It was done so any effort at telling the truth could be branded Fake News"

Continually repeating a lie doesn't make it true Belly.
I told you already the right were using the term 'fake news' long before the corporate media started using it.
Do you hear me? LONG BEFORE.

I remember it being used around the end of George W. Bush presidency, and definitely when Obama was President in relation to Libya consulate blamed on the video offending Muhammad.

The right were using the term 'fake news' in relation to things that have since been proven to be fake news.
The left appropriated the term probably Hillary herself helped popularise it, to deflect from criticisms of her and the Clinton Foundation.
And Hillary learned about doing these types of things from her mentor Saul Alinsky.

"This morning, think it was nine news site, but may have been news. com, both free to read
Trumps childlike, indeed insane like, thoughts on stopping migrants was spoken of"

From what I understand, the most important news regarding Trump in the last 24 hours is that he tweeted about a 'coup' against him.

"As I learn more and more each day, I am coming to the conclusion that what is taking place is not an impeachment, it is a COUP, intended to take away the Power of the People, their VOTE, their Freedoms, their Second Amendment, Religion, Military, Border Wall, and their God-given rights as a Citizen of The United States of America!"

http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1179179573541511176

I did not say that people had denied that there was
a chance of senior Republicans telling Nixon to go.

On the contrary, I spoke about Senator Barry Goldwater
and others visiting Nixon. And he resigning a
day later.

Which proved to be in the best
long term interest of the party. I also stated that it
was a different situation now with Trump. Abandoning
Trump will do as well. Trump needs to be exorcized from
the party of Lincoln and Reagan.

Foxy,

You said people went to Nixon to tell him to go (that's true)

I said there's no chance that will happen with Trump - ie that senior Republicans would go and tell him to go.

You said that's what they said about Nixon as well.

I asked who said it

You showed you had no idea who'd said or even if it had been said ie that you just made up the claim that someone had said it.

You are now in water-muddying mode. I always enjoy your water-muddying efforts.

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For the benefit of those who rely on the New York Times, SMH, ABC for their understanding of what's going on at the moment (ie those who have been lied to for 3 years and want to continue to be lied to) this little summary by the inestimable Anne Coulter might help with getting up to date .... http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2019/10/02/you-ask-a-lot-of-questions-for-a-president-n2554082

Oh and just for fun, Trump's entry for the greatest tweet of all time...

http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/10/02/look-at-this-photograph-trump-tweets-video-involving-biden-his-son-ukraine-and-nickelback-and-were-officially-dead/

mhaze,

I stated - "The political dynamic is different
today - with each side operating from a different set
of facts. House Democrats are almost certain to impeach
Trump. The question is whether Senate Republicans will
continue to stand by their President to the bitter end
or will some of them have the courage to tell him it's
over."

As they did with Nixon.

The meaning should be clear even to you.

mhaze let me be frank, brutally so, you are never going to be a person I consider well informed
STOP attributing your thoughts to me
2016 saw the wrong candidate stand for both sides
In my view highlighted the American electoral system needs a total over haul
Not having an opposition leader from the day after the result is known'
Thinking Clinton or another Bush was the real deal enforces that view
Trump lives by the support of under informed folk like you
He like Boris and Corbyn should not be near government unless the are cleaners mop and buck in hand
Worth noting, every view mine and yours has a right to be heard
But you, constantly, invent words I never said or think and attribute them to me
One month, just that, will see far different views about Trump appearing