Belly,

Oh gawd !

I just noticed that somehow I put the wrong http up, it should have been:

http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/dependency-age-groups-to-2100

Belly, please notice that the numbers in younger populations is set to drop, and is already close to doing that. The numbers in older age-groups will increase massively by 2100, mainly because people will be living longer, i.e. not dying until later than they would have, say, fifty or a hundred years ago - so they're still 'on the books'.

We're reaching world birth-numbers stability, and those numbers will soon start to slowly decline. There isn't a population crisis because of births, but because (if there IS a crisis) of longer lives. So the problem isn't necessarily how to cut births - family planning is, to me, more of a women's rights and opportunities issue than a population issue - but (if there IS a problem) one to do with coping with big numbers of much older people.

Of course, there is probably a limit to how long people can live even in the best of circumstances - say 120 - but once that huge population of older people start reaching 120, or whatever, then the world population will actually start to decline.

World population growth is not really much of an issue now, if it ever was.

Cheers,

Joe

Dear Joe,

One could have claimed that the problem is caused by old-age if the problem was new.

However, the world already became overpopulated around the year 0 when the number of humans exceeded 200,000,000. Sure many more bodies can be fed and housed, but for an adequate and decent lifestyle that supports spiritual growth and does not diminish the purpose, autonomy and value of human life, world population should be kept at around 100-200 millions.

Yuyutsu/Joe
Parts of the world are over populated
Any chance that is true for say China right now
How about India? 30.000 British pounds, stunning amount paid to filth people smugglers
To be let die in a frozen goods van
Some are searching for a better life right now, and the cost is horrific

Belly,

Most of Europe and Singapore and Hong Kong and Japan are much more populated (per square kilometre) than China.

It depends on the level of productive technology (god, I'm still a Marxist !): ancient Britain would have been massively over-populated if it had had a population of, say, one million. With modern technology, it can easily carry sixty million: would you suggest that Britain is over-populated ? Is Singapore over-populated ? Or Hong Kong ? No, because they generate enormous economic activity in services and are amongst the states with the wealthiest per head population in the world - in fact, they attract rather than export migrants.

China's population growth only has another decade or so, before it slowly declines: the result, partly, of the one-child policy and partly, of higher education, pensions, more advanced forms of technology and higher life expectations. India will similarly follow after another couple of decades (and more quickly) regardless of any government policies. When Africa gets its act together, its transition will be even quicker. That's how it works.

Yuyutsu, so who would you propose should be killed off, to fit the world's population of eight billion into your 200-million Dystopia ?

Cheers,

Joe

Loudmouth you hit on a truth, and some thing I truly fear
Who will die and by what method
Wars they say are fought to keep the population under control
And right now I would not trust any country any leader not to think another one may be a good idea
In fact I loath it, but think any control will be enforced on us and inflicted on some, by horrible government

Dear Joe,

«Yuyutsu, so who would you propose should be killed off»

Nobody, not involuntarily anyway, that would amount to murder.

Obviously it is not easy and unrealistic to solve in one day a problem that festered for 2000 years, so it will take the time to correct, about a century or so.

Just close the gates using education, complete cessation of child-support and free education, etc. and de-sexing those who are still interested in such activities that might produce new human bodies.