Foxy responds to me by offering a few corrections - and the makes none.

She tells me YouGov are an international survey company, which, I gather means they know all about doing good surveys in her mind. (In the same way as McDonalds, being a international food company knows all about world cuisine, I guess).

But, had Foxy read the actual survey from YouGov, she'd have seen that even they point out the limitations of this survey.

But Foxy didn't read the survey. She read someone who used the survey to make his points. Foxy then lifted paragraphs from that article and used them as her own. She also had no way of knowing if the figures in the article were right and didn't bother to check.

In fact the only testable number in the article is wrong, which should make one wary of the others.

But the article told Foxy what she wanted to hear, so, in her mind, that's all that matters. She used it as fact. But the "almost 90%" claim is false.

The survey also told me what I wanted to hear - that most people in the world don't think man is primarily responsible for GW. But I didn't think the survey was valid so I didn't use it. I wonder if Foxy is capable of understanding the difference?

As to her other points, the earth has unlimited resources and pollution in the west is in decline.

Overall what happened is that Foxy found a few dodgy numbers, used them and the exact words of others to make her point without bothering to find out if they were right, got found out and then, as usual, went into defence mode which in this case is to utterly ignore the errors in her post.

Indeed Foxy often, by implication, makes these same defences ie if you ignore all the errors then my post was absolutely correct.

Some people never give up! There was nothing left to say about this subject after a week, but the poor, pig-headed souls continue to think that they are duty-bound to convince the unconvincable. OLO is turning into an echo chamber for a handful of people with nothing better to do.

In the meantime, the hideously man-hating White Ribbon gravy train has bitten the dust. Now, that's something positive.

Dear Foxy,

No need to thank me re the Cook article. It's Bazz who deserves the thanks. He pointed it out to me because he reckoned it was proof that 99% of the scientific community are not in agreement that global warming in our era is caused by people. Talk about poor comprehension skills.

Thanks Bazz! We owe it all to you.

PS No wonder Bazz doesn't want to discuss anything with me any more. Once bitten, twice shy.

mhaze,

Could you please point out where exactly did I use "the dodgy words of others" that you keep banging on about?

And give us a link to your claims that what I quoted from the
survey is false and wrong.

cont'd ...

mhaze,

This is the link that you are trying to discredit and
from which I got the information. You're accusing it
of being "shonky" - why? Neither Forbes, nor James
Conca, nor YouGov are "shonky." The only one displaying
shonkiness here is you.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2019/09/17/how-does-everyone-feel-about-climate-change/#5d410e114051

Dear Foxy,

You need to keep in mind that mhaze is just an engineer.