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Belly,

For gods sake, read this:

https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate

The birth rate in Asia is below replacement rate. It is below the world birth rate. The birth rate in European countries is very much below replacement rate. Populations are rising slowly in many of those countries only because people are living longer, not because people have too many babies.

In time, that deficit birth rate will translate into deficit population growth, i.e. in, say, 20 or 30 years, populations in Europe will start to decline, followed by China. Populations in other Asian countries will follow by a decade or two.

So total world populations could stabilise in fifty years, and start to decline before 2100. Sleep well.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 4:28:26 PM
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Loudmouth! claiming my right to an opinion
One clearly different than yours
That here in OLO for some, is a capital crime
Such demands for closed minds, is funny
However take it further if every one must only have the same views we are doomed
Climate impacts on parts of the world, in such a way it lives hand in hand, with over population
Is the standard of life in every Asian country better for the huge[ despite you posted truth]number of people living there
Could/should this country continue to grow until we have that size population?
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 7:02:19 AM
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Belly,

I fully support your right to be a bigot, to have opinions which are never shaken by evidence, and to keep a closed mind. I don't think it does you any good, you'll still be a bigot tomorrow, I expect, but it's your right.

And perhaps you can join the dots between climate change and the bogeyman of over-population ?

And for the record, just where do you think over-population will occur ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 2:44:44 PM
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Joe,

And yet for some strange reason a young woman
pointing out unpleasant truths and asking
officials to step up and take steps to save the
planet is exceptionally triggering to largely older
white men on the right.

And boy - are they flailing in their attempts to respond.

"This is child abuse. Greta Thunberg is being cruelly
manipulated by her parents. She's mentally ill."

While millions of supporters gather around the globe
to protest alongside of her.

We all have our rights - that's true - but we need to
also acknowledge that we desperately need to seek
solutions to climate change, water scarcity, pollution,
over population, Third World poverty, if true sustainability
is to be achieved on our planet.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 3:16:01 PM
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Foxy,

So how is over-population a problem on its own, rather than government corruption and incompetence, civil wars, etc. ? How is it associated particularly with pollution ?

Please try to understand that the world birth-rate is currently just above replacement rate, and population is growing more from longer lives than more births ? The world may have almost reached 'peak child', i.e. its maximum birth-rate. India has almost reached ZPG, China has probably already reached it, and Europe and Russia and Japan have birth rates below replacement rate ? That populations are still growing mainly because of medical advances and longer life expectancy ?

So with all that, where is there over-population ? Please don't say Africa.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 3:28:40 PM
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Joe clearly I got you wrong you in fact are one of the aged wheel chair warriors who consider any thought other than your own wrong
Believe the loudmouth I thought I knew before my time in the spelling paddock was a much better person
BIGOT, new slant on thinking we should make a better life for every one
HIGHLIGHTING those you are defending
A truth exists here the west seems to [and you] keep some in the dark ages but profit from their country's
Climate, name what ever you want for its existence change that is
But in the end man has not yet got the power to stop the changes
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 4:03:06 PM
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