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The Forum > General Discussion > It's Not Easy Being A Climateer

It's Not Easy Being A Climateer

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Ice cores from the Antarctic show that the most dramatic rates of warming per decade in the last 308 years were not in recent decades, but in the decades between 1740 1789 and 1839 1888.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:18:33 AM
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Who is Mr Opinionated trying to convince with no real evidence, just sniping? No physical changes here and I live by the sea. This year has been the coldest in the eight years I have lived here. The tidal heights have not changed in the last 80 years according to the local retired fishermen. Hotter days were experienced in the early 1830-40 in Victoria than have been recorded in the last 100 years. C02 has risen in the atmosphere over the past 300 years but this should cause a greening effect on the planet.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:18:35 AM
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Dear NNS,

You expressly said “the data doesn't match reality”.

I have shown you how the data does clearly show the reality moreover it shows how predictions made in the past about the temperature arc have been spot on. If you want to reject empirical data then go ahead but that makes any further comment from you idiotic.

If what instead you were referring to is the predicted consequences of this temperature arc then you shouldn't be using the terms data and reality but rather modelling. Data can validate and support models. Data tells us about the here and now while models talk about the future.

As the link I provided shows the models of climate scientists are being validated and refined by the data. Our confidence levels in the models those models is therefore enhanced. The consequences of continuing CO2 pollution leading to a warming planet should be of particular concern to all thinking people.

Why is this so hard for you?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:19:29 AM
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Take NASA’s breathless media release that 2014 was the warmest year on record. After challenge, the agency gave it only a 38 per cent probability. Or, NOAA’s key publication in the lead-up to the Paris climate conference which whistleblowers revealed was released before critical data issues were resolved.

It’s not unusual for ‘official adjusted’ weather records to err on the warmer side. For example, an Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report claimed that last July was the hottest month ever. Satellites say it was probably the fourth- warmest of the last 41 years. Australia’s weather bureau demonstrates similar bias.

For the best part of five decades, the world has been fed dud prediction after dud prediction. Over that time the scientific and meteorological community has gone from near unanimity on global cooling, to the same level of confidence on global warming. At last, the public is beginning to see through the hysteria and not least, the tradition of widely promoted false dawns. As British scientist Philip Stott says, ‘In essence, the Earth has been given a 10-year survival warning regularly for the last fifty or so years’.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:24:52 AM
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mostly morally bankrupt people pushing this gw religion. Their moral posturing is sickening.
Posted by runner, Friday, 6 September 2019 10:26:30 AM
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We were told in the opening post to this discussion
that -

"Tony Thomas reports grief among climate scientists..."

And then we got more details.

Keith Windschuttle, Editor-in-Chief of Quadrant, tells us
that:

"Tony Thomas is an investigative journalist of rare
abilities. When he latches onto a story his research
is exhaustive ... His prose is always punchy and, even
rarer, often very funny. I have read his articles on the
Cold War and Australian Aborigines with enormous respect
for his deep appreciation and respect for the truth.
He is one of the finest journalists this country has ever
produced."

Few of us would dare to argue with that. (smile).
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 6 September 2019 11:22:53 AM
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